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Old Mar 14, 2008, 09:39 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Re: 6 Proven Steps to Building a Strong Family

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Originally Posted by tsurara View Post
The book you're quoting uses the Bible as a primary resource... it's obvious where it's agenda lies
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Don't you dare tell me that the book can be considered a reliable source of information o.O
Nice try but incorrect. It's primary source is a 25 + year study of 14,000 families all over the world, it is the largest study on the subject ever done. These 6 things were the ones found to be in common among ALL of them with strong family relationships. The book quotes the Bible on occasion because it does discuss religion (#6) including Judeo-Christian among others. Now you explain to me how you are going to discuss a "Strong Spiritual Commitment" without discussing the writings they are based on. Like it or not #6 was found to be a contributing factor and just dismissing it because you don't like it, while your prerogative, isn't going to change that.

Now those items were listed from the one with the most impact at the top and the least at the bottom. Yet you two are getting upset that the last one is something you don't like. If it makes that big a difference for others who are religious why are you taking the time to decry it? If you really believe in live and let live why should you even care?


My opinion as to why that might be there (besides the experience of watching it happen to people I know) is that religious belief structures for the vast majority include a belief in commitment (to marriage and other things) and include eternal consequences for those who don't live up to their responsibilities. It also tends to include a belief in the necessity of disciplining your children (not a random fact but found in one of the two links I gave you earlier). Atheistic and Agnostic beliefs do not. Sure there are both who believe the same thing but it is not "built in".




@tsurara, the links you provided were absolutely worthless to the point. A rant about how people who have a religion are living with a crutch and how in a scientific community that is antagonistic to religion there are more atheists and agnostics (big shock). A breakdown of world population that tries to make the number of atheists and agnostics look more impressive by giving the number per million instead of the percentage of world population... I am not impressed.

(I would love to see this study that shows atheists have less divorce however since every survey I have seen from any source says just the opposite. Or are they taking a total population poll instead of a sampling of those actually married first since atheists are also less likely to get married in the first place? PM me?)


Now can we please get back to discussing the list in general where relationships are concerned instead of ranting anti-religious outrage because they dared to include it?
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