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*LichGRIFFIN* · May 08, 2008, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Arrianna

Can I point out that the two of you are arguing the difference between subjective truth and absolute truth? Subjective truth is anything any person believes to be true and absolute truth is true whether anyone believes it or not. For example; all religion is true because people believe it is (subjective truth), or truth can be found in religions but unless it is 100% correct the religion isn't "true" (absolute truth).

Well ,the religion didn't descend on the whole world as a single same thing (or even the time pattern) ,and i didn't implying that it is "absolute truth" but as you said subjective truth that various for each individual.

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Originally Posted by Arrianna

Completely subjective truth and something I don't hold to since it is perfectly possible to believe something that is not true and never will be. Believing false truths leads to confusion and suffering. You cannot change the natural laws of cause and effect and calling something "good" that isn't won't change the consequences of your actions.

That's true and that's why we seek the most that we are convinced with and it leads to satisfaction rather than suffering and confusion in most cases ,what i mean i'm a muslim and both of us have different views on the religion but that doesn't mean you're suffering because i see you're following a false truth?! (no offence i mean as an example ,i do respect other religions but believe in mine more than any)

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Originally Posted by Arrianna

I have to come down on basilisk's side on the subject. As far as I am concerned, and for the reason stated above, absolute truth is much more important that subjective truth. However you have to separate truth from the people trying to live by it since people are both fallible and as mentioned before have their own will and choice (in Christian beliefs it isn't free).

But no one actually follows an absolute truth because there isn't any anyway.

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Originally Posted by Arrianna

...And yes, you can have wars where both sides believe they are the ones in the right. That doesn't mean both of them are or even either of them are. Subjective truth.

That's right ,also possible ,that's what i was telling basilisk888

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Originally Posted by basilisk888

0.0 *stuned* we are?
(told you so LichGriffin =P)
well anyways... I got nothing to say 0.0
(nothing is pure)

What?