rematche

i didn't over looked. actually he wants to fight but afraid because of what he is and what people think of him. it's in the novel but it wasn't shown in the anime. but shown in the super robot wars alpha 3 during his dialog with bright and heero just looked at him and said...burden.

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Joe Mage

I afraid that I don' understand, this jus' doesn' make sense. She had already broken Earth Forces policy by lettin' Kira pilot the Strike in the first place. She did this in an effort ta protect the Archangel, and "necessity" dictated that it b done. So it would make sense ta have a better trained pilot behind the controls than some1 who doesn' know the first thing 'bout battle. However, Kira was the only one who could pilot the Strike and the situation demanded that Kira pilot it. By all rights, Murrue should've been court-martialed, and not for allowin' a "coordinator" ta pilot the Strike; necessarilly; but for allowin' a "civilian" ta handle such top secret equipment. She was in it deep, but was never court-martialed. As a matter of fact, one could say that by allowin' Kira, a "civilian", ta pilot the Strike; she is indirectly responsible for what happened ta it and that if pilot were better trained; the Strike would've probably never had been destroyed. Murrue had already broken several of the Earth Forces military policies, so I don' believe that breakin' one more; and trainin' Kira; would've made all that much a difference in how the military was goin' ta deal wit Murrue. Their situation called for immediate action and I don' believe that what Murrue did would've been done differently by any other commander in that position, but I still feel that they would've all benefitted a whole lot better if Kira were trained.

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rematche

ah ha! that's actually one of seed's infamous plot holes that you've discovered. true, she had already broken enough laws to put her into bars but somehow that did not happened...hhhmmmm

and this time...no more. tired of seed discussions.

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ketaro

I like your loophole findings on this specific case, but i have to remind you that its just an anime show, so military sanctions are out of the question. lulz man. I guess she would had most likely been executed or put in jail for violating the rules.

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Ochi Gate

this is getting a bit ridicculous, but as for training kira, i must ask how you train one to pilot something on which you had no information. kira finished the friggin Strike's OS, not to mention that he trained the astray pilots. also, the strike dagger pilots where trained using Kira's data. and just like Mu La Flaga said, a mobile armor and a mobile suit are nothing alike, so training him on one of those would be useless. the only training kira could get would be battle.

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rematche

no wonder he gets his butt kicked in destiny because the lack of training...this is the end...no more, seed. this anime has too much loopholes that will drive us mad i tell you.

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Ochi Gate

the point of this thread isnt just to poke out the loopholes that one finds in the series, but a discussion of the series as a whole. there are plenty other things that can be discussed at this thread, so if you find the thread "too painful" then refrain from posting here.

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Joe Mage

Simple, by usin' the design specs for the Strike, they could have made a "mock" cockpit for Kira ta train in, not only that, but there's more ta trainin' than jus' enhancin' one's own skills. By trainin' one learns tactics and how ta adjust those tactics durin' the flow of battle. One also learns how ta cope wit battle and the emotional stress that comes wit it. How best ta use equipment, which equipment would b best for what, etc. I could go on and on, but my point is by trainin' Kira would've been a better pilot. And jus' 'cause a mobile armor is different from a mobile suit doesn' mean that Kira couldn' have benefited from the teachings of a more experienced pilot. Which, Mu la Flaga did try ta attempt ta do, but could do so only within a limited scope, 'cause he didn' have much time ta. If Mu had more time, and a proper trainin' facility, he could have been able train Kira, sharpenin' his skills, helpin' him wit tactics, teachin' him how ta best handle the stress, etc. So trainin' him wouldn' have been useless, it would've benefited him.

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Ochi Gate

but you again forget how scarce materials where. they had to get water from junius seven, for crying out loud! its not like they could spare anything to make a cockpit up, they would need the parts to repair the strike and Moebious Zero

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Joe Mage

It wasn', necessarily, any scarcity of materials as much as supplies and when they were resupplied by Adm. Halburton's 8th fleet, besides, any materials that they needed for manufacturin' such a facility were available then. Yet even w/o such facilities, Kira could've been drilled and practiced, when time allowed it, even taught Kira tactics, how ta handle stress, discipline, etc. Like I've said, there is so much more ta trainin' then jus' increasin' one's own skills.

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