Umbriel

I hope this will help, and not fuel to the fire.
Definition of Anime
The American Heritage Dictionary, 4th edition:
(Japanese, short for animeshon, animation, from English animation
A style of animation developed in Japan, characterized by stylized colorful art, futuristic settings, violence, and sex.
Wikipedia:
Anime is an abbreviation of the word animation. (outside of Japan the term most popularly refers to animation originating in Japan. To the West, not all animation is considered anime, anime is considered a subset of animation.
Note key words in examples. It's a style developed (not exclusively made in) in Japan.
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In the West not all animation is anime.Anime is a subset of animation.
Some argue that if it's not made in Japan, it's not anime. While in Japan, it's not anime just because it's made in Japan. Anime is a STYLE of animation that started in Japan. That does not mean only made in Japan. Now if we are to draw a conclusion from these two examples, then me would have to say that the Avatar could indeed be considered anime.
If we are to go by the strict "Japan made" definition, then are we to say that if a famous anime maker from Japan moves to (for arguments sake lets say America) American, and they start to create anime written, created, and marketed from America... Then by the strict "made in Japan" definition what they have created is not anime.
I had an email buddy who was from Japan (she had lived in the USA while attending collage, but returned to Japan), and I once asked her what "they" considered anime. She told me that "anime is a type of animation that has a certain feel and look.". I asked her if it was something only the Japanese can do. She responded "No, we consider any animation that follows the same principles, to be a part of what we consider anime. I think I'll continue listening to her, she would know.

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crimson

Yeah! I get the pint... I'd agree with him myself... Besides, the characters on the upper area of their logo or welcome screen or whatever you call the thing which has a designed title on it after the intro of each episode are chinese... I highly doubt it's actually anime... Is there even a japanese dubbed version of the series?

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tsurara

That's very odd... because it isn't true. Unless by "the same principals" you mean "a series of still images presented in quick succession to give the illusion of movement."

The Japanese use the word "anime" as an ~exact~ equivalent to the term "animation". There's no distinction at all made between styles, places of origin, etc.

Scooby Doo is anime. Powerpuff girls is anime. Flash animation is anime. Dragonball Z is anime. Bambi is anime.

Any distinction made is made for the benefit of foreigners.

What does that have to do with the price of cabbages? Japanese animation is full of nonsensical english: does that exclude it from the running? Meanwhile Teen Titans is full of Japanese characters that mean absolutely nothing: does that mean it's any more "Japanese"?

Likewise, what bearing does a Japanese dub have on the show? "Star Wars: Clone Wars", "Looney Tunes" and "Kim Possible" all have very popular Japanese dubs O-o;

Not sure how any of this plays into the argument.

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cantsenditback

there is more that one style of anime drawing for anime/cartoons. can the style of drawing say it can be an anime or not. can the style of drawing for a show such as powerpuff girls say it a cartoon or not compare to the style of dbz or naruto say it can be an anime or not. so im saying yes it is an anime show

Umbriel

Okay.... Where to start???

Why do I feel like I was just told to stand in the corner?

I see your from Japan, so I suppose you would know more than me on this. However I did say I wanted to help, not fuel the flames. Also I did note my sources. Nothing I said was mine, but theirs.

Below I have copied a section from my first post. Note the underlined parts. Also I did list which books/sites (The American Heritage Dictionary, 4th edition & Wikipedia) I took the definitions from, so if it's not true I am sorry, but I did copy it from them.

[I had an email buddy who was from Japan (she had lived in the USA while attending collage, but returned to Japan), and I once asked her what "they" considered anime. She told me that "anime is a type of animation that has a certain feel and look.". I asked her if it was something only the Japanese can do. She responded "No, we consider any animation that follows the same principals, to be a part of what we consider anime. I think I'll continue listening to her, she would know.]

As for any of it being untrue... The definitions are just that, definitions. I did not write them, I just copied them. Sorry. As for anything SHE may have said, she said it, not me, again sorry.

principals was her word, not mine. I don't recall asking her what she may have meant by that, As I recall I just accepted the statement as is.

Wow, I never thought I'd be on the other end of one of your slap-downs. You know a great deal, and I respect that. I always enjoy your posts. Sorry if you felt I said anything untrue. I merely repeated what I have been told, and I copied (from the noted sources) definitions.

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crimson

eh? i don't know how to react to what tsurara said... wah... i'm dumbfound...

anyway... i believe that an anime should at least have a japanese version (sub)... it is made in japan after all... that doesn't mean that anything subbed in japanese already is an anime... plus teen titans does have a lot of japanese characters, but you said it.. it has no sense at all... just the way that anime has english, but has little or no sense...

wah... you are mean(just as you said in your status) ! haha
oh well... no sense in me arguing with a japanese peson on this topic... peace out... i just wanted to react... Thanks for that post... i guess it has made me realize some things in the anime world... haha.

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iim bae

neither I know it
i just love it
are there anyone know????

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gaarasandkiller1

it is awsome but its not realy a anime its more cartoonish to me even tho i like it and i am not trying to cause a battle but yeah its deffinately not a anime

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!mveli2

well it might im not sure but really i think it is cause of the character

abby724

Anime or not? Eh, I guess whether you're in Japan or not. If you're in Japan, it's anime; anything animated is called "anime". Outta Japan, [n]uh-uh, because it ain't Japanese. Still, I think we all gotta agree that it has A LOT of Asian influence in it.

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