So in other words your speaking that there is no telling on what to do with the iOS4 on the ipod touch correct? and also another question comes to mind based on what you did 12 hours was the estimated time right, so how come the space has decreased instead of increasing the rate of the gigabytes? anyways if there is no possible answer i guess im asking the wrong person then just to say in my opinion. another one comes to my head is is cydia the only way to be certain that comes included when you jailbroke yours? thats all my question for today maybe some other time i will ask the real question that involved with this similar to what i've asked so far.