What did I tell you about all these elite galleries and casual members?Originally Posted by frozenwilderness
*I told you so's*
You could always upload your wallpapers to your members gallery and then move them to the wallpapers gallery once you have access.
Now that they are up, don't you think it would be nice to leave them there for others to appreciate? It's all about give and take. I hope you understand why we have this rule. When you do become Elite, I'm sure you would appreciate this rule immensely as to avoid leeches just registering here to freeload.
Thank you.
I still think that if you're genuinely concerned about freeloaders: the entire gallery should be members-only, all user works sections should be available to all users (since the users themselves are generating the content), and that if anything is made "Elite" it should be ready-to-use resources like renders, backgrounds, etc.
It's unfair to expect submissions from those who aren't allowed to view those submissions... and unrealistic to expect that a casual graphic artist who has other hobbies, a full time career or education to pursue will have the hours to pour into the incredibly demanding requirements for an "elite" account.
We use these limits to discourage spammers, low-quality posts and leeching: but in reality, we're still having the gallery leeched like crazy and are rewarding users who sit around and accumulate post counts while talking about nothing.
If we want graphic artists here: we need to make this a friendlier place for graphics: not just a haven for chatty 13-17 year olds and people who can use their computer to kill time at work (like me). The forum is only HALF of Animeonline. We don't require those active in the forum to post in the gallery, why should we require those who specialize in the gallery to post in the forum in order to achieve the same status?
There are incentives for posting in the forum but absolutely none for posting in the gallery.
That's not fair :/
And that's why the gallery isn't growing, being used or increasing in quality. We've put so much focus on the forum aspects of the site that we've forgotten that AO was originally a premiere site for the anime artist and walling community.
Granted, we'll probably never have that dominance back... but it seems a bit cruel (not to mention stupid) to shut out the people who made this site what it was when it was great, and keep it a draw today.
Actually, no I don't. The wallpapers I submitted not long after I re-joined the new ao are not present in my gallery. The only items I see are the submissions I made to the fanart section, which, granted, are the majority of my submissions, but I think it's just ridiculous that I can't see my own wallpapers that I submitted.
DB - If you look at my stats, I have made about 62 posts over the course of more than 3 years. If I were to continue at this rate, I'll make the community member mark in about another 2. Honestly, I don't care much for forums in general or the discussions in them. Pertaining to this site - I hardly watch any anime and I have no interest in discussing issues that either don't concern me when not required to do so; I'll leave it to school to handle that. And if I want to chat, I talk to people I know on IM since 1. their response is immediate and 2. I usually know them in person and find them fun or interesting to talk to. The only reason I would post in the forum is if there are gallery or site problems I need to be addressed like so, or if I'm feeling pretty random one day and really have nothing better to do, which is extremely rare. Though I understand your concern about leechers, I just don't think it's fair that I can't view my own submissions while others can when I have been with this site long before it moved under new administration. I really don't mind not being able to see the wallpapers section that much, as long as that is strictly limited to the uploads of others and not works that I made myself. So, please be kind and delete my wallpaper submissions for me or make the wallpapers sections accessible, since I do have the right to my own works.
Tsurara - I totally agree with you on everything :]
Big mistake frozenwilderness. BIG mistake.
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*confused* why?
Dont mind him, he's just being facetious :P
for what its worth I wholeheartedly second what tsu is saying about making the gallery more enticing to serious GFX people. sure this place had a thriving forum with entertaining members back in the day but the bread and butter was the gallery and the crowd that came with it, good or bad.
I'd say take frozen/iridian's opinion into account as well. Shes been a positive gallery contributor since 2003ish and her opinion aligns with quite a few wallers/artists that have migrated elsewhere.
Ok, I totally agree with you guys. frozenwilderness, you now have access to the Wallpapers Gallery. Thank you so much for your contribution to the gallery, and I agree, we need to be flexible and award access on a case-by-case scenario too.
Thanks again for opening my eyes to this.
Cheers.
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