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    1.2 billion USD of US Federal money down the drain in Guam!

    The Associated Press
    Quote Originally Posted by 1.2B USD B-2 stealth bomber crashes in Guam
    HAGATNA, Guam — A B-2 stealth bomber plunged to the ground shortly after taking off from an air base in Guam on Saturday, the first time one crashed, but both pilots ejected safely, Air Force officials said.

    There were no injuries on the ground or damage to buildings, and no munitions were on board. Each B-2 bomber costs about $1.2 billion to build.

    The Air Force, without identifying the pilots, said one was medically evaluated and released, and the other was in stable condition at Guam Naval Hospital.

    A board of officers will investigate what caused the bat-like aircraft to crash at 10:30 a.m., shortly after taking off from a runway. It was the first crash of a B-2 bomber, said Capt. Sheila Johnston, a spokeswoman for Air Combat Command at Langley Air Force Base in Virginia.

    The distinctive B-2 is described as a "multi-role bomber" that blends stealth technology with a highly efficient aerodynamic design. It is able to deliver large payloads at great range and has been used in combat over Kosovo, Afghanistan and Iraq.
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    Re: 1.2 billion USD of US Federal money down the drain in Guam!

    1.2 billion sure could feed one heck of a lot of starving children, that's for sure.

    Obviously, military spending is an important thing for a country, but when military spending is in the hundreds of billions of dollars, you know things have gone too far. The US spends way too much money on its military, even for a country at war. 100 billion could probably help out cancer research too. Actually, it could help a lot of things. An up to date military is fairly necessarry, but a gigantic Godzilla powerhouse of an updated military, is not.

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    Re: 1.2 billion USD of US Federal money down the drain in Guam!

    Grumble Grumble Grumble

    Though keep in mind that the 1.2 billion unit cost also includes the research and development costs of 'stealth' technology. Had more B-2 bombers been produced, the average cost per unit, spread out over larger numbers, would have gone down... The B-2 proved to be invaluable during the Kosovo War when the Serbian government refused to stop it's ethic cleansing campaign. The B-2, with the support of the US Air Force air-refueling tanker fleet, was the only aircraft which could fly from US bases, and loiter and precision bomb with impunity over a country with advanced air defense systems. The attack aircraft from the carrier task force didn't have the range for strikes in country interior, (with several FA-18s and one stealth fighter being shot down) plus the US didn't have the time to get forward basing permission for larger bomber aircraft from other countries closer to the region. If the B-2 assists weren't available, the only alternative was to send in ground forces in a land invasion, which was something that both President Clinton, and NATO wanted to avoid.
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    Re: 1.2 billion USD of US Federal money down the drain in Guam!

    The military power and weapons is needed. We are the biggest super power there is and because of that we will always be on the look out for invasion. If we didn't have all of the weapons that we do have the out comes of alot of conflicts would of ended up differently. We probably wouldn't even be a free country anymore if it wasn't for all the research and technology that we do have. I realize that it is a huge price tag and could be used for something else. But you need to ask yourself, if we had put it towards something else would we still be able to have all the freedoms that we do have?

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    Re: 1.2 billion USD of US Federal money down the drain in Guam!

    Hey, wait, wasn't a stealth bomber shot down in back in '99? Oh, wait, yeah, it was.

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    Re: 1.2 billion USD of US Federal money down the drain in Guam!

    Is it really worth it to use 1.2billion to just one, Alright the first one may cost that much including the research, but after that, it should cost less, do you know what you could do with that kind of money. donation to the poor, new nature reserve and fixing the road
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    Re: 1.2 billion USD of US Federal money down the drain in Guam!

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    Quote Originally Posted by aceman67 View Post
    Hey, wait, wasn't a stealth bomber shot down in back in '99? Oh, wait, yeah, it was.
    Its hard to trust a Internet resource that has a Russian (.ru) domain... This was actually a F-117 Stealth Fighter, (who's wreckage was shown on Serbian TV) that was knocked down...

    1999 NATO bombing of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The other thing is that only 21 B-2 Spirit bombers were ever built. And with the individual price tag that they have, its hard to hide a loss from the Congress and the public. With the one lost last week, all 21 are accounted for...

    B-2 Spirit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Re: 1.2 billion USD of US Federal money down the drain in Guam!

    Yes it may cost 1.2 billion, But i think its well worth it in the end of things.The reasons i say this is, well for one thing it is a stealth aircraft and less visible if not invisible to radar ( which the specs for it are classified ) so i can't say for sure but it has to be a damn small radar cross section.Which is well worth the money if were sending aircraft in deep behind enemy lines and don't want to loss pilots and aircraft to a single hard target.

    As for the crash this stuff happens, plus the one that crashed was the AV-12 Spirit of Kansas.
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