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    Re: Alternate Fuels

    I recently watched this documentary on Earth day.. and they were airing this show about new source or fuel for cars and vehicles... which is now being run in small size all over the world... and some still in research...

    In one of it.. they thought of using cars as a source of energy instead of using energy to move cars... Imagine the quantity of the cars and the amount of energy used everyday for just a day... and immagine if the energy can be channelled and turned into electric per say.... car users can pay their electric bills by just connecting thier car to the electric socket in their house and let the organization take the energy produced by it then distribute to the country... @.@ much safer... cleaner and quite effiecient way of getting energy na? (what i mean here is by turning Kinetic energy into electricity or other means of collecting energy by using kinetic energy or a car)

    As for moving the cars.. other means of energy can be used.. for example are Hydrogen fueled cars... Bio fueled cars... Solar energy and ect ect.... These are all renewable and much cleaner for the environtment in many aspects... ^^

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    Re: Alternate Fuels

    I forget which it is, but there's a plant that they can extract petrol from. I read it in a science book that came out in the early 80s. I can't remember the details though. That was a looong time ago.

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    Re: Alternate Fuels

    umm my.. o.O thats kinda unbelievable.. a type of plant that can extract petrol... gee.. but i doubt it will be in high quantity.. if it even exists that is... oh well... i wont believe it unless you have a very good prove on it except saying that you read from a book long time ago... you might have mixed your imaginations or something

    But... this is the real one... Do you guys know about fotosintensis? Yea... the process where plant change light + water + CO2 + minerals = O2 + glucose... Well... There are scientist in the process thought of that they would separate O2 and Hidrogen from water by using a technique with the same principal... and it uses sunlight... this hidrogen will then be used to fuel cars... Still under studies now ... ^^

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    Re: Alternate Fuels

    Actually, it was in a group of books put out by National Geographic. The energy companies never followed through with the process. The cost was too much, I guess.
    There is another plant choking some of the shipping lanes of the Gulf of Mexico which apparently has learned how to use the oil and the like given off by the ships as a food source. Scientists are currently looking into seeing if they could get energy from that plant.

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    Re: Alternate Fuels

    That is interesting indeed... ^^ I think plants could do and produce more energy... it have been around us... supporting us for such a long time and most people don't even understand or appreciate what good the plants have given instead some people had to be selfish and use whats on Earth in big quantities...it is dying right now..

    So.. i believe the use of petroleum for energy source should be stopped as quick as possible... Since the scientist have found many other energy sources... why not use that in bigger quantities? Its safer... and cleaner... efficient... money wise for long term period... durable.. renewable... gee.. just what the Earth could use...

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    Re: Alternate Fuels

    Now that I'm thinking about it, the petroleum plants produced an organic form of petroleum that didn't give off the massive amounts of carbon dioxide or other hazardous chemicals when burned.
    I too believe that we need to take a closer look at plants. Scientists have found hundreds of plants that could theoretically be used for energy and some believe that there are still more that haven't been looked at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gamemaster331 View Post
    I forget which it is, but there's a plant that they can extract petrol from. I read it in a science book that came out in the early 80s. I can't remember the details though. That was a looong time ago.
    I remember hearing about that myself. Let me see what I can find.

    Biofuels -- The Second Generation: New Technology Foresees Trees, not Grain, in the Tank

    Evidently it is the same technology that makes the coal to fuel possible, early non coal experiments were done with rapeseed I believe. Now they are discussing using "willows and other fast-growing trees" that don't compete with food crops.

    Fischer-Tropsch process - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The process costs about $50 per barrel last I heard which is why it wasn't followed through before but with current costs it is looking better and better.


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    Re: Alternate Fuels

    I am very surprised that no one has brought up Hydrogen power and that it was barely even mentioned. I don’t know much about it but a friend of mine here at work has been running Hydrogen powered jeep and gets the same gas mileage now as my focus which is close to 30 miles a gallon. That’s close to 50% more then he was getting before. Also Hydrogen has the benefit of also cleaning the engine as it is being run through the system. He says the problem with it is not so much the lack of power but rather too much power. Wearing down some areas of his engine and thus had to swap out a few parts that was really cheap and now he has no problem with it. One of the add on's I believe he said is that it needs a container to collect the moisture from the water vapors but that in its self is cheap and easy to do.

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