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Old Feb 23, 2008, 02:56 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Discipline~!

Discipline is always tought at school and home... It's applied in your daily life and to some people,.. it's the key to thier success...

So... my question is.. Is discipline an important thing in your life? If it is or if it is not.. tell us why you say so..

Is the way they teach us to be decipline is effective or is it still can be improved? Whats your opinion on ways to deciplining an individual?

Relation to organized and disciplined... ^^

anything to add up into conversation must be under the topic discipline
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Old Feb 23, 2008, 03:38 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Decipline~!

You mean DISCIPLINE.

Is discipline important? Um, like duh. I don't think you'd have a single good person in this world without discipline. It's administered in many different ways, so I can't really pinpoint a "general" way of disciplining someone, although we do all know some common ones, i.e:

+ grounding
+ caning
+ reprimanding
+ removal of privileges
+ public shaming

And they're all good. I don't see why current methods of discipline should be done away with. Some people DO get carried away and end up abusing their kids instead of just hurting them enough so they won't do certain things again, and sometimes shaming students by putting them up on stage does really bad things for their self-esteem... but really. You can't tell how every person will react to a certain form of discipline, so the administrators aren't entirely to blame. And I grew up believing that what doesn't kill you will only make you stronger........ so DISH OUT THE DISCIPLINE!
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Old Feb 23, 2008, 08:55 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Decipline~!

Discipline plays a huge part in my life.....without discipline my life would be a huge wreck.....
Of course.....when parents try to discipline their kids....they can use methods such as grounding and taking away privileges...but some people confuse discipline with violence.......and some parents take it too far..like beating their child......I am definitely against that kind of discipline...too many people suffer from abusive relationships in their homes....discipline bring order in my life and teaches a person how to control themselves and their "rebellious" side....
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Old Feb 23, 2008, 03:10 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Decipline~!

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+ grounding
+ caning
+ reprimanding
+ removal of privileges
+ public shaming
Yup.. they are effective.. but nowadays.. like astaroth said... about rebellious side... ^^ do you know more and more kids getting more rebellious everyday? I think those methods made them to be so... They feel they are being controlled and some don't like it. Nobody likes the feeling of getting controlled. Kids these days are different than those of before ^^ old methods should be discarded or combined with new ones...

To me the best method to discipline one's self is to know they must be themselves... to have the urge to be discipline.. which is rarely happen
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Re: Decipline~!

Discipline is the key to consistent good behavior in a person. If they don't associate bad things with... bad feelings, then they won't bother going the extra meter to being good. And I personally consider ensuring humans grow up and behaving well as an important matter.

I think that the youth of modern American society —I haven't lived recently and/or long enough in other countries to know what's going on there, sorry— is due to a number of factors, two major ones being lack of [effective] discipline, and the devolving culture. Think about it. WHen you're grounded for doing something, when you think of doing a repeat offense, you don't think too much about it, right? But when you're spanked... Um, no. I'm not going to do that again. And it's important to get these associations with the youth early in age. However, I'm not saying to beat your kid badly enough that if they're well-educated enough, they'll compare living with you like a Jew in Nazi Germany (before the concentration camps) :cough:.

Remember, grounding doesn't leave much of an imprint in your brain. Your body doesn't really care about having to stay in your bedroom for a week; it's bad during the punishment, but after that, you're really off the hook. Take it from me. When I was spanked for doing something bad, I made sure not to do it again. But when I went into adolescenthood, and I "graduated" out of spanking... I was grounded for posessing contrabands, but after the punishment, guess what? A few weeks later, I thought, "Awww, heck with it! I want It's my money, no one's getting hurt in anyway whatsoever, I don't care about being grounded, why not?"
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Re: Decipline~!

I say that decipline usually keep someone in line and not alway a punishment or somthing like that. but there are people who alway fight back in life and do anything their way
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Re: Decipline~!

Most of the time Discipline is a good thing. Such as when someone kills someone else they should be put in jail. But other times disipline isn't so good such as when a kid gets a spanking for waking their dad or something around those lines. But for some people such as myself discipline isn't really neassary b\c without it getting into trouble will be boring to us.
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Old Feb 24, 2008, 04:30 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Decipline~!

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Yup.. they are effective.. but nowadays.. like astaroth said... about rebellious side... ^^ do you know more and more kids getting more rebellious everyday? I think those methods made them to be so... They feel they are being controlled and some don't like it. Nobody likes the feeling of getting controlled. Kids these days are different than those of before ^^ old methods should be discarded or combined with new ones...

To me the best method to discipline one's self is to know they must be themselves... to have the urge to be discipline.. which is rarely happen
Spoiled kids, that's what they are.

I know a lot of families administer discipline in similar ways, and not all result in the same outcome, and I have been trying to figure out what makes a person snap in relation to that. I haven't yet found an answer, but I reckon I may. Soon.

I feel that if one's parents set good examples while disciplining their kids, the outcome SHOULD be more positive than if the parents just scold and beat their kids up without being good people themselves. My parents get pissed off if I stay out OR up late. I have to be home by 11 pm, and in bed by 1 am, and it's not a big issue with me because my parents stick by the same rules themselves. What I see in a lot of families is parents who think they can do whatever they like, while kids must be governed with strict rules. The rules bit is true, but it works better if the parents practice what they preach. I feel that that has a pretty big say in how the kids turn out. Kids don't just wake up one morning and go, "I'm gonna rebel!"

Also, your last sentence is rubbish. "Being yourself" is hardly synonymous with discipline, even though your "self" could be a disciplined being to begin with. You won't know discipline until you've seen discipline, and it is the people in a community (as a collective) that determines what is ethical, what is not and subsequently, what requires disciplining - as such, I would hardly call self-discipline a good form of discipline.

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Most of the time Discipline is a good thing. Such as when someone kills someone else they should be put in jail. But other times disipline isn't so good such as when a kid gets a spanking for waking their dad or something around those lines. But for some people such as myself discipline isn't really neassary b\c without it getting into trouble will be boring to us.
Discipline isn't necessary because getting into trouble would become boring without it? I don't get you? >_> You seem to be pro-boredom.

Haha, if I were a dad or a mom, would I let my kid off for waking me in the middle of the night? NO. I would spank his bum till it's sore. And I reckon my dad would do the same to me too, except I've never woken him up in the middle of the night....... well, I have - but only because I had a peptic ulcer, or a bad cough, or something like that. The thing about doctor parents is that you find you always disturb their sleep (as though them being on call isn't enough!). So it's subjective, really. My sister got her first spanking when she was a baby, apparently because she wouldn't listen to my dad when he asked her to close the door. You might think that's a ridiculously trivial thing to spank a baby for, but my dad obviously felt it was a necessary action in making his kids understand that DAD'S WORD IS FINAL.
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Haha, if I were a dad or a mom, would I let my kid off for waking me in the middle of the night? NO. I would spank his bum till it's sore.
That sounds like child abuse to me. What if the kid needed something, had a bad dream or was just scared? Now if they kept waking you for nothing the whole night it be a different story. Also you should never beat a kid so bad as to leave bruises.
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Re: Discipline~!

Belive it or not i am very disciplined even though people may not belive may for reasons unshared... I choose to speak my mind, it overcomes my discipline at times but because these two aren't very good mixed togther im a very strange person. Too many people opinion. Yes i belive discipline is the key to living and also people without it find themselves ok in early life but as time goes on struggle and that the key part of their lives, even though childhood memories are very strongly recognised i unforutnatley have a photograpphic memory creating great problems in my life as i rember certain happy parts of my life however more sadness dwells creating pain and fear for my mind to control {There it is my secret to game ownage, i have a photographic memory} But hopefully people can change their ways from their undisciplined lives to mkae their lives better overall, i wish my life was better but i'll live with how it is...
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Re: Discipline~!

Yes its very important we need it to function into days world or any world it what holds people back from doing things that could hurt others Discliping others is not wrong its what is right.
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