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Old Oct 15, 2007, 09:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Military or Civilian life??

I was just wondering which life you would choose. As for me...I have to make that dicision in about a year. I forgot what's it's like to be a civilian again. Being in the military has it's benefits but I want to know, what you (AO members) find to be a benefit as a civilian. I haven't been a civilian in 7yrs. The military is making me tired so what do you think I should do? Get out and try to find that job out there that everyone is looking for OR stay in and make a career out of this life for 12 more years??

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Old Oct 15, 2007, 10:23 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Military or Civilian life??

Well, this is a very hard question. I'm not a psycholigist and I don't know you personaly so I can't form a very helpful response about what decision is right for you versus someone else that I know physically. Though I will say this; your suitability to re-enter civilian life depends largely on what you have seen, been through and taught in the military as well as your own interpretation of these events and I have no clue as to what that may have been. Therefore you may accept my conclusion that no one but yourself can decide with any kind of accuracy what-so-ever as to what you should do, and anyone who attempts it has no idea what in Allah's name they are talking about as there are very few people here with military experience or a degree in psychology who could give you some credible advice.

But as to my take on civilian life, I myself have spent long hard hours contemplating the comparitive differences between military and civilian life because I have been long set on enlisting in the Army. As to my conclusion; pros and cons of civy versus military life are many and in most cases are not the same for everyone. For me however I believe I would benefit greatly both physically and mentaly from being in the Army over continuing to live a civilian life and I look forward to the day when I finally sing those papers [rest assured I have my doubts about the military, but this is my general feeling about it]. My reasons for enlisting are that I wish to gain a higher degree of mental discipline, physical strength and to be with people in which I can find similar interests and common ground to stand on - a sense of unity, or family if you will. Also, I wish to experience events that will positively change my mentality towards life and why it is important. More specifically to resurrect the primitive survival instinct that I seemed to have lost, which will allow me to live life with a new sense of apprection for my surroundings instead of the solemn, bitter acceptance that I've carried for it practically all my life.

So those are my reasons for picking military over civilian life. But those are only goals, and goals are eventually accomplished and it will not take the rest of my life dedicated to the military to achieve that. You may have had goals before enlisting, and now you may or may not have accomplished them so you wish to leave. What's left after those goals to keep you in the military? Well, the only reasons I can guess as of now is to keep your life constant and on the road you know the best since the shift from military back into civilian life would perhaps cause a great disruption to your own lifestyle or long lasting inconveniences. But like I said only you can ascertain the specific reasons that warrant you to stay or leave the military. I encourage you to make your own decision on the matter.

I hope that helps!
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Old Oct 15, 2007, 11:32 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Military or Civilian life??

As you say there are many benefits for being in the military...such as you know it's a constant job. You don't have to worry about really getting fired. You have the health insurance that would be hard to find if you were to leave the military. The housing if you are married or even if you are not is pretty much for free if you choose to live on base or post. Just having to pay for certain things like you phone, internet, and cable bill.

Although it does have it's disadvantages such as you have to report where you are going and you are only allowed to go so many miles away from base or post without filling out paperwork to travel...which can be a pain in the wazoo. I hate how there are certain parts of the city your not allowed to go in if your at Fort Bragg, NC.

Though if you want my opinion on what I would do...I would stay in and make the military my career...only for the simple fact that when you retire 20 years after being in the military you still get your benefits. After that you can go and find the job career that would make the best for you.
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Re: Military or Civilian life??

OK so I have to say that it is quite difficult to say because I don't know any thing about the military, but I will say that it is not our choice in the matter, but your own that counts towards being in the military or becoming a civilian.

That choice can make your life better or even worse, but my thought on the matter is that I would like to join and would have if I was able, but being a civilian has it's rough patches and so does being a military man.

so think about it this way, would you like to gamble all that you have now on the chance of being accepted back into the civilian population, where you are able to hurt someone with your knowledge of military training, or use that training to defend your country?
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Re: Military or Civilian life??

Being a civilian is great cause you dont have to get up and go train for amry satuff for hours or you dont have a place depending on you to save them and you. you dont have to wacth friends die be your side and you really dont have to make life and death desions everyday of your life.
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Re: Military or Civilian life??

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I was just wondering which life you would choose. As for me...I have to make that dicision in about a year. I forgot what's it's like to be a civilian again. Being in the military has it's benefits but I want to know, what you (AO members) find to be a benefit as a civilian. I haven't been a civilian in 7yrs. The military is making me tired so what do you think I should do? Get out and try to find that job out there that everyone is looking for OR stay in and make a career out of this life for 12 more years??

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Well, I happen to think being close to my family is a benefit. Not having to really worry about what the day will bring is nice. If your heart and soul is not into being a military man, you should stop. The change back to civilian would not necessarily be easy, but I think it is worth the attempt.
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Old Oct 16, 2007, 11:56 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Military or Civilian life??

My thoughts on thsi can be summed up by the poem I wrote:
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Re: Military or Civilian life??

Well, I choose a 'civilian' life for my own personal opinions. benefit of being a civilian is obviously not having to take orders XD. idk lol

But, the question should be - what do you want to do in life? Do you want to be in the army for your career? or are you passionate about something else in your life? Think about where you want to be and what your goals are. Sorry I can't help to make it easier but it does come down to what you want out of life ^_^;
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Old Oct 17, 2007, 09:08 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Re: Military or Civilian life??

I prefer civilian life by far. The only pros of being in the military I can see are the physical fitness and combat training you get.


Some of my biggest reasons:

1) I don't even have a femtogram of patriotism or nationalism in me so a national army shares no ideology with me.

2) I'm not desperate for friends of have any longing to belong to a certain group.

3) The military discourages critical thinking.
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Old Oct 17, 2007, 11:33 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Re: Military or Civilian life??

I used to be in the Army. I thought it was fun at first. Then I came to realize that you don't get paid to think. You have to conform--be just like everyone else in the unit--become a robot. You have little to no freedom, especially if you get an article 15 (I had a few of those). The mess hall food is bland, most squad leaders and platoon sergeants are pricks, and I hated having to stand in formation for three hours every time there was some kind of event.

The firing range was awesome, the training kicked ass, but the actual active duty sucked. The only really cool thing I got out of it was traveling. I was stationed in Hawaii, went to Thailand for a month and got to visit Guam once. I've been in several states within my lifetime, due to being an Army brat and went to others during my adulthood. I personally prefer being a civilian. I get to do more with my free time, hell I get more free time!! LOL. I don't have to worry about shining boots, or room inspections, I don't have to stand at attention when an officer walks by, and I don't have to wake up early in the morning unless it's important. ^_^
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Old Oct 17, 2007, 01:02 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Re: Military or Civilian life??

I'll tell you right now. My first week back to civillian life was awkward. Wearing proper attire and regulation haircut makes you stand out alot. But i the end it turned out alot better. I'm not sure if your enjoy stressful environments or not but you get a whole lot less of them when you leave. I'm not sure which branch your in but the way the Marines treat me the last year was terrible. I was stuck doing crap work and dodging all kinds of reassignment offers. Thats when they throw everything at you to get you to stay. Bonuses, recruiting, Drill instructor school. They'll ever send you to change your job if you want. Anything to keep you.

In the end its up to you if they make you an offer you can't refuse go ahead and take it. If not grab your G.I. Bill and run.

I for one enjoy the civillian life. I can do what I want whenever I want. I'm free to be me.
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