MP3 players could replace stethoscopes

Alucard_ML · Sep 19, 2007, 03:18 AM

What do you think about it. Would it be a good idear to use some more modern things? or should we stay with the good old things??

The stethoscope, associated with doctors for hundreds of years, could soon be consigned to history.

Researchers claim that the traditional equipment is not as good at recording patient’s chests as a modern MP3 player.

Neil Skjodt, from the University of Alberta, Canada, said that the music players can help doctors to record respiratory sounds using their in-built microphones.

He told the European Respiratory Society’s annual congress in Stockholm: "The quality, clarity and purity of the loud sounds were better than I have ever heard with a stethoscope."

Another advantage is that the recordings can be stored and sent to a specialist for more detailed analysis.

Respiratory physiologist Frans de Jongh, from the University of Amsterdam, said the idea of using MP3 players to listen to chest noises had merit, but assessing a patient’s condition accurately depended on the interpretation of the sounds by doctors.

Miroku4444 · Sep 19, 2007, 08:17 AM

I dont see why they can't use both. I mean do an initial check with the traditional stethoscopes, then use the MP3 players.

**LenMiyata** · Sep 19, 2007, 10:20 AM

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*Ochi Gate* · Sep 19, 2007, 11:28 AM

..........a stethoscope isnt going to be affected by things that would jack with an MP3 player. but i think that they could use something a little better than an MP3 player anyway... or at least a specialized one.....

highteckdudu · Sep 19, 2007, 11:45 AM

no i dont think that is a good idea! mp3s are for music and stethiscopes are for listenig to people chest. and doctors shouldnt be listening to music while they are on the job.

Alucard_ML · Sep 20, 2007, 02:00 AM

Well... If the quality is better than the stethoscope and you can record the heart beat too for a more detailed research.... Or maybe they should improve the stethoscope, if a MP3 player is better

Sirhc · Sep 20, 2007, 01:45 PM

Basically, the title is a throw off to the main concept. They'd make a specialized Sound recorder that also had a headphone stream. Thing is, they'd only be useful if the initial check is hard to hear like a weak heart...though that's kinda easy enough to reconize. If they could always hear the heart, then those that have practiced with the olden day stethoscope may overlook something.

Avatar theif#1 · Sep 20, 2007, 07:14 PM

i dont care much but for a doctor i guess it would be more useful cause it would be easier to identify a problem

*Ochi Gate* · Sep 21, 2007, 08:28 AM

unless they do have a faint heartbeat, or a heart murmur, i feel there is no reason to abandon the stethescope. its worked for ages and ages, so evedently it works good enough.

Mattness · Sep 21, 2007, 09:39 AM

Plus it is alot less expensive to continue to use the stethoscope insted of having to buy a bungh of the MP3 devices. I figure that if you really have that cold circle on your back that much, you can give one to your docter. The stethoscope works fine and I don't want to wast any more money than we allready do.

*Ochi Gate* · Sep 27, 2007, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattness

Plus it is alot less expensive to continue to use the stethoscope insted of having to buy a bungh of the MP3 devices. I figure that if you really have that cold circle on your back that much, you can give one to your docter. The stethoscope works fine and I don't want to wast any more money than we allready do.

very well put, indeed. the US at least is already in enough trouble.... besides, they sometimes warm up the ol' S-scope before using it.

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Alucard_ML Diamond in the Rough Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Denmark Posts: 326 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Credits: 2,220	MP3 players could replace stethoscopes What do you think about it. Would it be a good idear to use some more modern things? or should we stay with the good old things?? The stethoscope, associated with doctors for hundreds of years, could soon be consigned to history. Researchers claim that the traditional equipment is not as good at recording patient’s chests as a modern MP3 player. Neil Skjodt, from the University of Alberta, Canada, said that the music players can help doctors to record respiratory sounds using their in-built microphones. He told the European Respiratory Society’s annual congress in Stockholm: "The quality, clarity and purity of the loud sounds were better than I have ever heard with a stethoscope." Another advantage is that the recordings can be stored and sent to a specialist for more detailed analysis. Respiratory physiologist Frans de Jongh, from the University of Amsterdam, said the idea of using MP3 players to listen to chest noises had merit, but assessing a patient’s condition accurately depended on the interpretation of the sounds by doctors. __________________ This awesome sig is made by Ryomakurosaki
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