Scourge (Oct 31, 2008)
Um... my family IS black.Would you be happy and not have biased feelings if blacks began giving death threats to you and your family/friends/ because of the color of your skin? So no peach, you cannot realte. Especially since you don't live this discrimination every damn day.
And if a member of my family, (or my friends) were targeted or attacked in a violent mannor, by ANY race... I will probably hate all humanity for a while... See... I don't discriminate.
You actually have no idea what I can or cannot relate to. My father, is just as "black" as you are. He is'nt even light skinned... infact, having seen your picture... I think hes darker than you. With long nappy dreads down to the middle of his back. Seeing as how, klan members don't like "ni**er lover's" or "halfbreeds" either, my family could also be targeted by white supremistist (sp). As to the fair color of my skin? I bet my light complexion has caused me more descrimination than you'd ever imagine.
You ain't never seen the movie "Queen"? With Halle Berrey? Well you need to. Then you might understand what it is like being mixed, when there is racial tension. See, at least when your "black"... you can seek solace amongst your own people! Well try not having a people! Try not being white enough to be accepted by whites... or black enough tbe accepted by blacks. When your mixed, like me, you're targeted by BOTH sides, and comforted by no one. See, it could be said that YOU don't know half of the descrimination I've lived through.
Either way, If there are race riots... I'd be just as much of a target as you honey. But no one is going to break down my intelligence and common sense. No one is going to make me out to be exactly what they WANT to make african american people out to be... Which is ignorant. Don't you realize that?! They like to look at us as ignorant, stupid, selfish , VICTIMS! And if you are going to turn around and show hate toward white people, you're feeding into their hype... giving 'em EXACTLY what they want.
Im not going to be pat of the problem. I am SMARTER than that, and I am better than that... and no punk Nazi, with last name Cowart (Coward) is going to force me to stoop to their level.
Im just as affraid as you are about the aftermath of this election. Trust me.
Last edited by Peach_follows; Oct 30, 2008 at 04:24 PM.
... Not Ever Again...
Wow, I was going to respond to your post but Peach_follows said more then I could. All I will add is what it can lead to:
No idea what I am talking about? My ancestors were hunted down and run out of their homes time and time again by armed mobs who did everything mobs will do. Years later they had rebuilt on their own lands and then a bunch of bigots related to the ones responsible came through talking a lot like what you are getting now. People were afraid. My ancestors ignored it but some others allowed their fear to control them and slaughtered the entire group except for a few children.
Were they in danger? People still argue about that. All we do know is that innocent people who had done no more then talk were murdered because someone who had been previously persecuted had allowed their fear to rule them.
Don't take sides and don't let fear rule you. Sorry Peach I will be sympathetic. It sucks to be in a situation like that and I know what it is like to be afraid. All I can say is don't let it rule you... even if you do live in Chicago. (Heck of a place to live right now.)
Don't get me wrong Peach_follows, I admire your attitude and wish more people could be like that but that doesn't mean I can't be sympathetic too.
Hey now, I never said we shouldn't be sympathetic to those who live in fear just because of their ethnicity. What I said was... why are we gently catoring to the feelings of a person who just said they HATE a race of people?! You can be a victim of descrimination and still be tactful.
Dr. Martin Luther King Junior should have tought us that.
Mind you, it will be difficult to show restraint during race riots... I am not above harboring the same feelings as Princesslady. But what I DO know is, it shows no strength in character to break down and succomb to hatred. That is weakness. I HOPE I am never that weak. And I was a little shocked that someone would show this kind of weakness so early in the game. Already second guessing friends? Over what... a threat? A plot? I mean, its not as if she is just now realizing that racism exsists... so why the sudden hatred? Because of fear? If you're going to hate people because you're affraid of racism (which some people do) then why bother befriending outside your race? Why even go to school? After all segregation can't protect you. If racism scares you soo much that it steers you into hatred, and counter racism... then why not just sit at home, and be scared and hateful alone?
Apparently princesslady hasn't been that type of person. Shes made white friends... even though racism has always been alive and well. Sooooooo... why start trippin' now?
Last edited by Peach_follows; Oct 30, 2008 at 04:40 PM.
... Not Ever Again...
Peach, light skinned blacks have it way easier than the rest of the dark ones. What are you talking about you have no one to go to? All the light skinned mullatos are thought of to be treated like royalty and Are deemed "white" if anything.
Light skins aren't followed as much
Light skins are targeted as much
Light skins aren't even thought of to be a damn black person.
My brother, cousin, best friend, and aunt is light skinned (one of the bleached their skin to get it). They suffer WAY less discrimination than us dark blacks. Please, peach. Don't EVEN go there with me. You can't even compare your discrimination with mine becuase you are accepted by both races. I am considered "white" because of how I act. How can you sit there and say I have people to go to? Blacks think I am a sell out because I have white friends, I watch white shows, I act "white"! YOU have it easier so don't even go there.
Born to rule, raised to lead, taught to establish: The African Queen
i am hearing more than just assasination attempts.
i heard that there are senates in the house that are planing on unleashing a serious case of anthrax thru out the entire world to decrease our numbers by over 2 thirds i have heard that both nomineies are in on it and they are trying to "save the world i hate thinking about this kind of stuff but really i cant help it
Really? On what planet? What biracial person would even back up this staement. What ounce of fact is this even based on? YOUR OPINION? How DARE you tell me how people see ME in the world!All the light skinned mullatos are thought of to be treated like royalty and Are deemed "white" if anything.
"Mulato" is a deragatory word... like n*gger. It means a small mule. Don't use it to reffer to me or anyone else! You sound so putridly racist right now.
Mulatto - An Invisible American Identity
"Light skins"? Wow... Well thank you for proving my point about not being accepted by (racist) black people.Light skins aren't followed as much
Light skins are targeted as much
Light skins aren't even thought of to be a damn black person.
This is not a pitty party is it? Because thats what it sounds like! If I d have known I was going to a party I would have dressed up more!
You CAN NOT tell me who I am or am not accepted by. Because you don't know anything about what ive experienced in MY life. I've been followed in the store a countless number of times... I don't even know why. I've also been BLATANTLY descriminated agianst... on a daily basis... because I'm "fat". And thats a hell you'd probably NEVER be able to relate to. So... uh... don't fool yourself into thinking you, or any other black person, are exclusively the most victimized when it comes to discrimination. Please.
Truth be told.... when there is no racial tension... And seeing as how I dont try to keep myself in the company of racists... I have been (and generally am) accepted both black people and white people... Because if I am not accepted... I am too busy being super, funky, fresh to even notice. Meaning, I live my life DESPITE it... Racism and all that other ignorant BS never phases me for long.
But there have been MANY instances (esspecailly growing up in a predominately black neighborhood) Where I was the "White, h*nkey, b*tch" .... Or while going to my little special suburban school (predominately white) ... and my father walked in. Some little white girl told me how disgusting it was that I mislead people into believing I was white. She said "back then a cross would've burned in your yard" (Apperently she thought I should've announced my blackness). Those are just a couple examples on a LONG list.
I bet everyone is descriminated against at some point. (I'td be retarded to think black people have it worse than other minorities, esspecially middle eastern people now a days) Most of us just don't let descrimination change who we are. We don't let it define us. And we try our best not to let it affect us to the point that we resort to the same, non-productive, hatred that spawned descrimination to begin with.
See, to a racist white person... I am just as black as you. A racist white person doesn't care how LIGHT I am. And I have Never.... ever ever ever... Had a white person "accept me as white" And even if they did... its not genuwine acceptace, because I'm NOT white! Most of my white friends.... They accept me. Period. Not as another white person. But ... as a person. Same with my black, asian, hispanic, native, and multi-racial friends. Because the comapny ~I~ keep, we don't devide ourselves over our skin color, or culture.
So um, if you are not going to heed my words. I mean ... if you arent listeing... (because Im really just trying help you). Then uh... lets just squash it. Because this is becoming a petty, tit for tat, kind of thing. And , quite frankly, you're insulting me when you minimize the awful experiences I've had due to descrimination. Insults oten lead to me snapping out. Then theres infractions, and bans.... I'd rather skip it.
Last edited by Peach_follows; Nov 01, 2008 at 07:43 AM.
... Not Ever Again...
Man... Seriously. You know nothing about being mixed. Just because the light skinned people you happen to know had it easier, down there in Chicago. Doesn't mean you have ANY SCOPE what so ever of what it is to be mixed.
And you make Peach's point yet dispute it at the same time. How rediculous. I grew up in fargo north dakota. I am bi-racial and fairly light skinned. Light enough for MOST people to tell that I am in fact multi-racial rather then black. And I can tell you that I personally have been followed around PLENTY of stores. And I have been looked at as suspect numbers of times because of the color of my skin. And I assure you that every one in that school considered me black. Unlike you obviously.
Mullatos are not treated like royalty. They are NOT considered white. We are considered this dirty thing in the middle. And calling ME a mullato, is like calling you a N***er in my oppinion. It's a nasty thing to say to someone and highly insulting. And not all mixed kids are black and white FYI (which is what the term mullato is refering to.)
YOU have no right to talk about how anyone has anything better then anyone. You don't know what mullato people go through. You know what the light skinned BLACK people YOU know go through. In Chicago. I, in minnesota, have been discriminated against by the white kids for being black. Numerous times. And against the BLACK KIDS even freaking more, for being white. I have been chastised and HATED on for being light skinned and fairer haired then the girls around me. I have been beat up and made fun of for speaking polite, proper english. I have been targeted and humiliated for having one parent who was dark skinned and one who is a german poster child.
All my life I have been asked, while with my family, if I was adopted. If that's my REAL mom. I have been asked if I was a NUMBER of races, that I am not (puerto-rican, eastern indian, packistani.)
We get followed just like black people. Except black people. LIKE YOU refuse to acknowlage that life ain't peachy for us just because we're light skinned and someone might put us on TV sooner.
You never really loved me/You never really cared/It was all just a game to boost your ego/Those feelings never really there/ I'm filing emotional bankruptcy/My heart can take no more debt/Theres no more "money" there to spend. === Besides tee hee SHE loves me!
Scourge (Nov 01, 2008)
No matter who your parents are, if one's black, you're black in the eyes of white people who don't live in the inner cities. If you live in the inner cities and you're mixed, you're black to the police. Black people that actually LIKE me call me a "crazy-ass n*gga," so if I'm a n*gga, doesn't that mean I'm black? BTW, don't call us "Mullato"! (spelling?) I hate that word, It's offensive, and you may as well say the n-word, while you're at it. Bratling said it best, we're looked at like we're the "dirty thing in the middle". I'd rather be called funny colored than mullato. And technically, ALL black people--unless they're fresh off the boat--are mixed with something; more than likely white!! You don't think slave owners didn't have a little coffee with their cream back in the day? If you don't think so, then you're dillusional. You're mixed too!!! Mullato!
You basically just told me, bratling, peach_follows and every bi-racial (black/white) person in existence that we're not black enough... Good job. You've proven you can be racist and be afraid of racists/racism at the same time. *claps*
Last edited by atomik_sprout; Nov 01, 2008 at 02:38 PM. Reason: One more thing...