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    Re: Religious conscious

    Then... abby.. would would you explain why in schools, well most schools kept repeating that religious concious is important? Heck... most of my essays on discipline, youth nowadays, and everything that has to do with society and social problems, one of the ways of correcting them is by teaching them more about religion... now why is that? ^^ lol it's like in every god damned essay im writing at school...

    If youths are religious there won't be social problems, if parents are religious they won't rape thier children, if society is religious they will look after one another more than they are now... heck there was even a talk on muslims and their attitudes towards other race and religious holder,... that was like... 2 days ago... lol ^^ racism is still in malaysia but gladly its not in a serious level...

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    Re: Religious conscious

    There is nothing at all wrong with religion.

    It is absolutely necessary for the development of culture, consciousness, philosophy and morality. Religion is the direct result of our unique ability to question our existence.

    There is something wrong with the desire to control people or eliminate free will, human rights or other forms of thought through it.

    Religion doesn't suck. People do.

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    Re: Religious conscious

    i think it's impossible to know how the world would be without religion, since mankind emerged they have tried to find God or "God" or gods or whatever. a lot of cultural growth came/comes from religion, so to take out such a key component breaks down every social structure mankind has ever known...

    ^_^ in my opinion at least

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    Re: Religious conscious

    What Tsurara said is really true... even if religion is what caused all those what you said there abby... in reality, it's man's dark hearts it self that made it all a happen... lol ^^ religion exists for the greater good not the other way around so religion is not a bad thing ^^

    Hmm i agree with that too abu dhabi ^^ without it most culture wont exist... look at them who still practices animism for example... their believes creates thier culture.. ^^

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    Re: Religious conscious

    I think that if there is no religion then the world will start to become screwed up. The reason I think this is b\c some people don't kill others because of there religion. While some religion wants people kill others doesn't mean that they get free rights to do it.

    I think that if the world didn't have religion most countries wouldn't have a base for there laws. And without laws you could do what ever you felt like doing. So you could be killed with out punishment for the person who did it.
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    Re: Religious conscious

    Quote Originally Posted by Muffin
    The only real problem there is that the Law is nothing, but words and good intentions without the proper means to back it.
    Completely agree with you. But its the same deal with religion I think. It's basically "Don't do this thing or you may or may not be punished for it".You may not always be caught by the law. God may not exist. It's those "may"s that form loopholes in someone's logic concerning consequences to crime. However, God cannot be proven, and so its easier to dismiss consequences pertaining to that. As long as consequences are only possibilites, one can always falsely justify an action to themselves. For this reason, I still think Law is more of a force to prevent injustice, and it's existance alone could cope with any problems in the future if people become unreligous-like. It's all very 'what-if' though, so that's just my opinion.

    Quote Originally Posted by RayMe
    if society is religious they will look after one another more than they are now
    Just like when Cortez met the Aztecs? Pizarro with the Incas? Richard the Lionheart during the Crusades? Nero? Justinian?

    Whilst religion may not be the one sole factor for these examples(After all, God is but 1 of the 3 G's when it came to exploring), it is a factor to be mentioned I think. Justinian was plenty religious, but he didn't seem to mind murdering rioting citizens in the Hippodrome. Case in point; religion doesn't stop people from killing each other, and it sometimes encourages it, even if by all means it is a zealot misinterpreting it totally.

    With this in mind, I think you'd find little difference between a religious-less future and a religious future.

    Again, opinion, so I'm open to all thoughts.
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    Re: Religious conscious

    Case in point; religion doesn't stop people from killing each other, and it sometimes encourages it, even if by all means it is a zealot misinterpreting it totally
    As i have said and tsurara as well... It's man's dark heart and man's decision itself that causes this to happen... no matter how religious one can be... it's his decision and his actions that made him who one is... Though you may say it is the same if he is religious or not... he may still kill but then again the impact is on others who believes their religion and follows the guidance... If more follows the guide properly, the less negative things will be done...thus lesser the negative effects.

    For example is the terrorists like Osama bin Laden, he actually uses the word "jihad" as a propaganda to make muslim people follow his direction. He used the word in the wrong way... Jihad means to sacrifice something for the good of the religion or others or his self...

    For example... using money and donate it for making a mosque or more is a small jihad (or use money towards the religion's benefit).. to die in battle for the religion is a big and very respected jihad (also refered as "syahid"...) to control one self and avoid doing bad things like following your negative wants is also a jihad, but to Osama he uses jihad so that muslims would do suicidal bombing and kill innocent lives.. ~.~ sheesh.. that is just not right...

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