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    Re: ~suicide~

    Quote Originally Posted by jaderabbit View Post
    I think commiting suicide is against the law for a good reason. You dont only attempt to kill yourself, but people taht care for you are mentally traumatized by your actions, an personally if you try to kill your self an survive, you deserve to goto to jail. Your not insane, your just mentally incompentant to realize that your actions effect others. Think if you tried to kill yourself in public, an some little kids saw you do it... thats just to much for their younger minds.
    So what you're saying is that suicidal people should stick around and live in emotional/physical agony for the personal satisfaction of their peers/parents/siblings? It's the old "Stick around so I can stay happy with myself" Sorry, but that's not good enough, you're not going to save any lives with that arguement. On the contrary, you're more likely to lose a few as it just goes to show how insanely narcissistic people are to be so incosiderate of another person's pain and how it's really not worth living around such people to begin with. If a family member grieves for the death of a loved one who committed suicide it is from lack of understanding for what they were feeling at the time. And in reality, most of the time those people are grieving for themselves and not for the dead, frustrated that they didn't do more or were so blind to that person's inner termoil, or ashamed that the person had the resolve to go through with something they considered but never could follow through on (jealousy). Most arguements anti suicide opionated people put forward are complete paradoxes (such as yours) and are only used as further motivation for self termination. Nice try though.

    Now for the question; Man's right to kill himself is irrevocable, and no matter how many laws or restrictions on weapons and drugs the goverment places on an individual he or she can always find a way. More often than not the end matters much more than the means to a suicidal person, and they're willing to try anything, but there are quite a few peaceful, effective methods that the government can do nothing about (though it takes research and time to carry one of choice out). Laws aren't going to do anything to deter suicide or protect the public from the idea. This attempted censoring has only backfired, exposing the public even more as some desperate suicides involve public places and even the people themselves. If assisted suicide were legal in most states this would not be necessary. It's pretty amusing how the goverment hasn't yet realized this irony.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exoparadapsyphobia View Post
    So what you're saying is that suicidal people should stick around and live in emotional/physical agony for the personal satisfaction of their peers/parents/siblings? It's the old "Stick around so I can stay happy with myself" Sorry, but that's not good enough, you're not going to save any lives with that arguement. On the contrary, you're more likely to lose a few as it just goes to show how insanely narcissistic people are to be so incosiderate of another person's pain and how it's really not worth living around such people to begin with. If a family member grieves for the death of a loved one who committed suicide it is from lack of understanding for what they were feeling at the time. And in reality, most of the time those people are grieving for themselves and not for the dead, frustrated that they didn't do more or were so blind to that person's inner termoil, or ashamed that the person had the resolve to go through with something they considered but never could follow through on (jealousy). Most arguements anti suicide opionated people put forward are complete paradoxes (such as yours) and are only used as further motivation for self termination. Nice try though.

    Now for the question; Man's right to kill himself is irrevocable, and no matter how many laws or restrictions on weapons and drugs the goverment places on an individual he or she can always find a way. More often than not the end matters much more than the means to a suicidal person, and they're willing to try anything, but there are quite a few peaceful, effective methods that the government can do nothing about (though it takes research and time to carry one of choice out). Laws aren't going to do anything to deter suicide or protect the public from the idea. This attempted censoring has only backfired, exposing the public even more as some desperate suicides involve public places and even the people themselves. If assisted suicide were legal in most states this would not be necessary. It's pretty amusing how the goverment hasn't yet realized this irony.
    Yea, why is it soo unacceptable and taboo to commit suicide in the U.S
    than it would be in other countries?

    Why is the U.S so quick to identify suicide as a mental illness (like depression)?
    In other countries they take more time to investigate and dont just right away diagnos a patient as being depressed just becuase they made an attempt.

    Also what is it about antidepressants that might actually raise the amount of suicidal thoughts you have?

    I never understood that.
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    Re: ~suicide~

    Quote Originally Posted by Rook View Post
    Yea, why is it soo unacceptable and taboo to commit suicide in the U.S
    than it would be in other countries?

    Why is the U.S so quick to identify suicide as a mental illness (like depression)?
    In other countries they take more time to investigate and dont just right away diagnos a patient as being depressed just becuase they made an attempt.

    Also what is it about antidepressants that might actually raise the amount of suicidal thoughts you have?

    I never understood that.
    Who knows. I've found the american government to be odd. ( no offense to anyone because every government has flaws I just mean on this issue)
    Antidepressant as far as I remember only really increase thought of sucide in children and teens. Appearently it increase thought by 1.5 percent. It isn't all antidepressants they believed its only linked to what inside certain kinds. My information may be a bit out dated. Antidepressants stimulate certain mood elivation hormones in the brain such as serotonin, norepinephrine and dopamine. Someone who is depressed as lower levels of these horomones.Since you are playing with horomones I'm assuming the irony of antidepressants causing higher risk of suicide is most likely because the increase in hormones didn't react the way they were intend to.

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    Re: ~suicide~

    It is against the law to commit suicide so that the authorities have the ability to commit you to psychiatric care should you survive the attempt. They consider you a threat to the safety of other and YOURSELF. This takes the choice of getting care on your own out of your hands if your suicidal. IN other words they force you to get help.

    To answer the other question, Depression medication has an increased chance of suicidal thoughts in children and teens because the medication is based off of adult brain chemistry. while it would help an adult with depression by correcting the chemical balance of the brain(and it doesn't always work) of an adult, children and teen brains are still undergoing changes that adult based medication changes for the worse. this is not always the case. Please keep in mind that sometimes teens Do benefit from the medication.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghattenpaw View Post

    To answer the other question, Depression medication has an increased chance of suicidal thoughts in children and teens because the medication is based off of adult brain chemistry. while it would help an adult with depression by correcting the chemical balance of the brain(and it doesn't always work) of an adult, children and teen brains are still undergoing changes that adult based medication changes for the worse. this is not always the case. Please keep in mind that sometimes teens Do benefit from the medication.
    hmm.. that does make sense. I was asuming it was something like that but I was also some what unsure.

    Well that manged to make alot clearer. n_n

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    Re: ~suicide~

    Suicides againt the law. wtf??? If you commit suicide you die.So are they gonn put ur dead body in jail?Seriously YOU DIE WHEN YOU COMMIT SUICIDE YOU CANT BE PUT IN JAIL!!!

    The goverments so stupid. =/

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    Re: ~suicide~

    If you want to commit suicide, you likely just want to escape your life and everyone around you.

    IMO, that's a cowards way out. However, an attempt at an ease of one's pain should not even be close to against the law. The person needs help and comfort if he survives the attempt but; ultimately, it's his choice whether he wants to live or die. He WILL do it if the pain is unbearable.


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    Suicides againt the law. wtf??? If you commit suicide you die.So are they gonn put ur dead body in jail?Seriously YOU DIE WHEN YOU COMMIT SUICIDE YOU CANT BE PUT IN JAIL!!!

    The goverments so stupid. =/
    OK, lets try this again. Suicide is against the law so the the authorities can commit the suicidal person to a mental institute or other psychiatric care SHOULD THEY SURVIVE the attempt. They are not going to put you in jail for attempting (or successfully completing) suicide, they are going to put you in a hospital under doctors care. The law is there so the government can FORCE you to get treatment whether you want it or not. If the suicide attempt was successful and you die, you get buried.

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