Thread: why do you think it is...

Interesting topic Jamie...but i think it mostly depends on the person.. If he is sincere and willing to change himself then he can ^^

i dont think he will change and i can
say this being a guy myself , you can ask
any guy here it would take a miracle to change
things becuase we like things simple and sometimes
it does hurt girls but guys arnt complexed really.

how they act once pretty much shows you
how they will always be its just how guys
are if they say they will change they probably want
because its something guys dont do unless there is a
good enough reason and if they dont change for you
then your not good enough atleast thats how i see it.

Originally Posted by HolderOfTheDarkChalice

i dont think he will change and i can
say this being a guy myself , you can ask
any guy here it would take a miracle to change
things becuase we like things simple and sometimes
it does hurt girls but guys arnt complexed really.

how they act once pretty much shows you
how they will always be its just how guys
are if they say they will change they probably want
because its something guys dont do unless there is a
good enough reason and if they dont change for you
then your not good enough atleast thats how i see it.

ouch!... that hurt... but i'm not talking about just guys... There are females out there that do the same thing....

Okay then answer me this... If you don't think that she is a good enough for you to change... why date her in the first place??? Why not just let things be and not hurt her?

You cannot make people change they have to want to change themselves too. I've hurt somebody without trying to as hard as that sounds but I've also been hurt myself. As long as your don't dwell on it you should be fine.

Originally Posted by Taraqs

You cannot make people change they have to want to change themselves too. I've hurt somebody without trying to as hard as that sounds but I've also been hurt myself. As long as your don't dwell on it you should be fine.

i understand that you are going to get hurt and that you are going to hurt other people but there are some out there who hurt others just because they can and for the "sport" of it.

yeah i did and i still dont care and alest i found out and yes i was really pissed at the time and like me i still love him and it really dosnt matter what other people think.....i loved him before i told him and i loved him long after .....and for gaiving him another change i guess i would as long as he promased me it wouldnt happen again

Why do you think it is that there are people out there who just seem like they just want to drag you down along with them???

I mean have you ever dating someone who you truely felt you loved and just ended up getting hurt in the end? And if you forgave them and tried again have you ever been let down then too? Do they change??? is there any possible way for them to change if they have done it to other girls or guys too?

People who seem like they want to drag you down with them is quite simple... Misery loves company... No one wants to be down by themselves apparently so to speak... Some people tend to not want others to do better than they are... People can be jealous & envious of another person & some of them can be the ones you call friends/associates or even family... They can be the worst ones... Why that is.?. Now that is one of the questions in the big book called "I Don't Know"...

Now for something like a relationship I am not going to say that they are dragging you down, but that they are really in it for themselves... They might care, but not enough to care for the person's feelings... Some want to do right, but just can't (that can be from many reasons or just one)... Some justify their acts by just the fact that they did things for you that some how they can mess around... < I know funny right... like you owe them from being in a relationship in the first place> Not knowing that a relationship is a committed thing... Others have two categories... The wifey type & the mistress type (names may vary)... What that means is you have a main, which is the wifey type, but feel the need that they can do things cause their "love" is with that person & the mistress is just a fling... And claims when/if they marry that person they will stop it all together... < Yea' right > I know some people who didn't really want to be with that person, but couldn't/didn't want to see that person with someone else... < Yea' I know... selfish right.!? >

And for a person changing... You can't make them they actually have to want to change themselves... Some people are terrified of change & can't picture themselves any other way for the fact that they are protecting themselves or just that they are scared...

"People are known for letting you down... It is up to you if the person is worth on taking a chance of falling again"...