kaki tori kaizoku

i have a question what is the japanese word of phoenix?
im creating a manga and one of the char. gets reborn like a phoenix what more fitting name is there.
and i have another question why in animes/mangas does the phoenix r called suzaku?

thanx for ur help in advance

__________________

Innerhell

The Chinese Phoenix represents the Empress and is the second-most respected creature, second only to the Dragon. The Phoenix is the leader of all birds. the phoenix is called hō-ō and also goes by the name fushichō ("immortal bird"). In Japan, the phoenix goes by another name, the Suzaku/Red Bird. One of the Shijin, the four guardians of the compass. Each guardian is associated with a direction in the compass. The Suzaku is the guardian of the south.

It is debatable whether the Suzaku/Red Bird is simply the Japanese version of the Phoenix or if both legends are merged together to make one.

tl;dr version
Basically... The Suzaku and the Phoenix are essentially just the same thing.
The answer to your thread title question is hō-ō. Just like the Pokemon. Ho-oh.

More information:

• Link
• Link

__________________

!The GunGrave of Trigun

Ho-oh yep like pokemon but pokemon makes the phoenix one of the coolest mythical beasts look like elvis in a bird form look at what they did to it.

Hassun

What? Elvis in a bird form? Keep in mind that Pokémon is NOT the subject at hand here.

The phoenix you talk about is 鳳凰 or Chinese Phoenix called Fenghuang. The Japanese word for the phoenix we know is just フェニックス (phoenix in katakana).

__________________

Asian Guy

To correct one of the member here, Suzaku is the guardian for the world North side. It is Genbu the one who guard the South side.

__________________

Innerhell

So apparently, every single mythology textbook and website is wrong? It must be a conspiracy then. Everything that I can find states that Suzaku is the Bird of the South. I've got my sources. Where are yours?

another link

__________________

tsurara

Suzaku is not a word for "pheonix", it is the name of a specific pheonix... one of the four Chinese animals denoting directions. It's Chinese feng shui/decorative motif that was imported to Japan during Heian.

"hi no tori" - firebird
"fenikkusu" - pheonix
and
"fushichou" - pheonix

all work and are in common use.

Though if you want to write a comic book... how about the incredibly radical and refreshingly un-obnoxious option of naming them in a language you can actually use? I don't know... like English? O-o;

Yeah... I'm mean. But really, this should be common sense.

>_<

*having a bad fandom day*

RAWR~ RAWRRAWR!

__________________

Asian Guy

Suzaku who are a fire bird are symbolizing the sky [ north ], while Genbu who are a giant turtle with trees grow on it's shell symbolizing earth [ south ]. I know this based on some Japanese belief [ it is not imported from China ] it is related with beliefs/religion that are beliefed by some Japanese.

By the way, east guarded by a dragon and that is the reason why Dragon muth known to come from the East [ Asia ].

__________________