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    The set that I currently have my eye one goes on sale at the Costco website towards the end of August...

    http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product...rPath=79*3316*

    with built in Analog and Digital HDTV tuners as well... Larger size LCD sets should be entering the market, and coming down in price, for the fall Christmas buying season...

    Right now, the DLP based projection screen units are the most affordable, but the current crop is only native up to 720i resolution. Texas Instruments is suppose to start production of a larger nano-tech chip that's native up to 1080i resolution this fall, which really means that it won't be a factor in the market until next year... One of the problems that I find with DLP projection sets is that the screens are still nearly unviewable if you have them in a sun lit room. LCD screens don't have this problem, and their also free of the problem with screen burn in that Plasma screens have... (They say they solved the burnin problem for Plasma, but still...)

    The long term prospects for further Plasma screen development appears dim... (Sony has cancled all of their Plasma developments and are concentrating on further LCD developments) plus Plasma has the FTC concerned because of their power draw, (which is roughly double of the same size tube TV set) LCD wide screens (surprisingly) have about the same power draw as a tube set (for backlighting)
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    Re: damnit

    ooooooo interesting, I may hold off a bit more and see then. Hadn't run across anything about plasma production slowing so thats a good heads up. Thats also a steal on that LCD you have a link too! I wish they had a 42" version of it!!! >_< well looks like I've got more reading to do! thanks bro! be sure to hit me up with any other related info you ever run across I'm always up for reading new bits

    wow Pioneer must be screwed, I'd read where they dropped all of their models and put it all on plasma, they dont make any other types now

    also agreed on DLP, I know they love how they can say no burn ins and all about gaming, but good grief they really just dont look all that to me

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    damnit Len you may have converted me lol here though I'll have to wait fo the bigger models >_< so who right now is leading the way in the gold standard for LCD HDTVs? I notice a lot of them are descently priced yet some look like they do so by giving up a lot of contrast ratio, so just curious

    my only real concern I guess for LCD HDTV's would be what kinda dead pixel rates are we gonna get on these suckers?? ^_^;; I mean ouch that much screen its gonna have some dead ones and for that much I'm not having it lol
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    Re: damnit

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    Since the units ARE entering the market, it appears that dead pixels aren't that much of an issue. It seems with LCD units, the only way to judge the quality of the set is to compare the native screen resolution, (and 1920x1080 can't be beat!!!) The only problem with this resolution is that only the latest and greatest PC video cards can produce a DVI signal for that high a resolution, with alot of the older AGP cards are limited to 1600x1200 resolution.

    Another thing to be concerned about is that alot of the newer wide screen units are giving up on the computer compatible DVI interface and are moving towards the HDMI connection for hardware support of the FCC broadcast flag and digital rights management. The courts have overturned the FCC law mandating support for HDMI and the broadcast flag, but current rumors in the industry suggest that congress will eventually give the legal power back to the FCC for HDMI support... (Both DVI and HDMI provide better image quality then is possible with component inputs...)
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    Re: damnit

    yeah that was another thing is all the ones I'm choosing from have the HDMI inputs, seems like the DVI is pretty much dumped on all the new stuff since its only a video signal and the HDMI lets them put through the audio and video. I've read a lot of reports though with cards not doing well with a DVI to HDMI cable getting their comp to show properly, which one of the plasmas I looked at had a VGA hookup and many were saying it looked better then going through DVI so I dunno I'd have to try both and see myself I suppose. I found a good site awhile back showing the pro's and cons of both plasma and LCD. I did find one though that talked about like you mentioned plasmas being slowed down and what not. They basically were saying that wasn't real so I'm not sure. They said some manufacturers are just switching to one or the other. I did find a nice 40 inch Samsung I like, in fact its the same model Xbox/Microsoft is endorsing for the xbox 360. They are putting a 23" version of that samsung in all of the Xbox 360 kiosks going around whenever. So I'd like to see how it looks and would hope Samsung has out some 42's soon. They were basically back and fourth about the LCD/Plasma thing though, this was better for one while something else was better for the other. I just gotta find a happy medium

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    Re: damnit

    Hey Raven didn't know you were part of the AO staff (shows how much I pay attention). Hi!

    You guys should all come up to the convention here. It would be cheaper for you and I'm here...eh..eh?








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    Re: damnit

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    Haha, that reminds me of the IRC days, more specifically, DKA.


    Anywho, I would except it wouldn't be cheaper for me transportation wise, I think Toronto is a good 3x more expensive to get to via greyhound, not to mention about 6x longer.

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    Re: damnit

    actually give me details about it Moonie and maybe next year I can swing it to be honest I was talking to my buddy Giddy (one of my xbox live friends) and he and I have been wanting to meet up, he's somewhere up in Canada, so I can tell him if I drag my ass all the way up to wherever the convention is that he can come over to hang out for a day haha! but yeah I've been thinking about a trip to Canada (since I dont think I'll ever shell out the money for an australia trip) so Canada being another place I'd like to visit let me know more about it cause I'd seriously look at it as a possibility for next year

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    Trunks: I meant in terms of your money aka you'd get more stuff for the American dollar here.

    Gig: Whereabouts does you're friend live? The con is called the CN Expo (Canadian National Expo). Its really cool cuz its a bunch of con's going on at the same time. Its usually an anime, sci-fi, comic, video game and this year they added a horror convention too. Its usually a weekend in late August. Here's a link to this year's convention:
    http://www.hobbystar.com/ComicConTorontoV2/CC_Main.asp. I think the cost for a ticket into the con is $40 CDN. Its located in downtown Toronto too, really close to the Royal York hotel and probably some other one's as well.

    And yeah, I think it would definitly be cheaper for you to come here then Australia. If you and you're bud ever decide to come up let me know. We'll hang out together.

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