Anime Online
Home Forums Gallery Reviews RPG Arcade FleaMarket Links Rules / FAQ

Welcome to AnimeOnline.net, your personal Anime Community!

Anime Online Rulez!


Go Back   Anime Online > Archived Forums > The Vault

 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old Oct 27, 2005, 12:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
Banned
 
tasukuchan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Whitechapel District
Posts: 270
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
tasukuchan will become famous soon enoughtasukuchan will become famous soon enough
Credits: -150
Ebonics for school credit??

I have heard recent discussion amoung my friends that people have been debating whether or not to "add ebonics" as a language for highschool / college classes. My reasoning is that ebonics isn't foreign"language". Moreover, it originated domestically ~ within the US, hence it shouldn't be classified as a course needed or an elective in school.

Languages such as Spanish, French, Japanese, Chinese, Italian all have distinct cultural backgrounds...but if you go to Africa you will not see anyone speaking "ebonics". It originated in the US, after African-immigration.

Has anyone heard anything related to this matter? Should this be put into our education system?
Status: Offline
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Old Oct 27, 2005, 12:44 PM   #2 (permalink)
shittle
 
Hassun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Pretiacruento
Posts: 7,021
Thanks: 0
Thanked 38 Times in 33 Posts
Hassun will become famous soon enoughHassun will become famous soon enough
Credits: 24,509
Re: Ebonics for school credit??

I'm not really for that idea. It's a pretty useless 'language' (if you can call it that) for most people anyway.
We don't learn any specific dialects at school either, we should be able to pick that up at home.
__________________
Status: Offline
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Old Oct 27, 2005, 12:50 PM   #3 (permalink)
14 Highscores
Bring home the gold!
 
Legend's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Sharks Territory
Posts: 4,488
Thanks: 38
Thanked 45 Times in 43 Posts
Legend has a spectacular aura aboutLegend has a spectacular aura about
Credits: 71,890
Re: Ebonics for school credit??

No I think we should keep it out of our school system. Reason why I say this is because our kids have enough problem with grammar anyways, and we really don't need more confusions with, "I is what I is."
__________________
AO is looking a lot like WCW.
Status: Offline
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Old Oct 27, 2005, 01:04 PM   #4 (permalink)
Untouchable
 
Raven Omega's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Pennsylvania, US.
Posts: 765
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Raven Omega will become famous soon enoughRaven Omega will become famous soon enough
Credits: 390
Re: Ebonics for school credit??

Yeah, let's teach klingon as well, that's just as useful.

Ebonics is not a language, nothing acknowledges it as such, just because Webster's dictionary is adding a couple words of slang here and there doesn't mean any of it has any meaning or value to the english language or on its own as a language. At the end of the day it's trash slang spoken by lower levels of society with absolutely no practical use whatsoever.
Status: Offline
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Old Oct 27, 2005, 01:05 PM   #5 (permalink)
The Antagonist
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,922
Thanks: 2
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Eriadd will become famous soon enoughEriadd will become famous soon enough
Credits: 1,896
Re: Ebonics for school credit??

Hell, Raven, you find me a school that teaches Klingon for college credits, and I'll be right there.
Status: Offline
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Old Oct 27, 2005, 02:52 PM   #6 (permalink)
Lady Barronmore
 
Arrianna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 3,012
Thanks: 8
Thanked 34 Times in 31 Posts
Arrianna will become famous soon enoughArrianna will become famous soon enough
Credits: 37,819
Re: Ebonics for school credit??

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eriadd
Hell, Raven, you find me a school that teaches Klingon for college credits, and I'll be right there.
Ohhhh!!! Me to! lol

Of course it shouldn't be taught. That would be like teaching cockney as a new language. What? You're planning on going to the wilds of down town ____ where your ability to get a job and survive will depend on it?
__________________

l Stone Hold l Now We're Cooking! l
Status: Offline
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Old Oct 27, 2005, 03:08 PM   #7 (permalink)
Diamond in the Rough
 
Barronmore's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 483
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Barronmore will become famous soon enoughBarronmore will become famous soon enough
Credits: 1,484
Re: Ebonics for school credit??

Acutally, there are positions that need to be field for those who speak the Klingon language. There's a insane asylum that acutally had to hire a translator who spoke Klingon because there were MULTIPLE inmates who would only speak Klingon to the staff.

Here's the CNN article that talks about it : http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/West/05/1...ter/index.html

I guess if we need Klingon in the world, there may be room for Ebonics after all!
__________________
Status: Offline
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Old Oct 27, 2005, 03:17 PM   #8 (permalink)
Lady Barronmore
 
Arrianna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 3,012
Thanks: 8
Thanked 34 Times in 31 Posts
Arrianna will become famous soon enoughArrianna will become famous soon enough
Credits: 37,819
Re: Ebonics for school credit??

Quote:
Originally Posted by Barronmore
Acutally, there are positions that need to be field for those who speak the Klingon language. There's a insane asylum that acutally had to hire a translator who spoke Klingon because there were MULTIPLE inmates who would only speak Klingon to the staff.

Here's the CNN article that talks about it : http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/West/05/1...ter/index.html

I guess if we need Klingon in the world, there may be room for Ebonics after all!
In an insane asylum?

If that doesn't put it in perspective.lol
__________________

l Stone Hold l Now We're Cooking! l
Status: Offline
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Old Oct 27, 2005, 03:20 PM   #9 (permalink)
I am a LoverHater
 
emmy_chan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: you dont want to know. .
Posts: 359
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
emmy_chan will become famous soon enoughemmy_chan will become famous soon enough
Credits: 110
Re: Ebonics for school credit??

i think the whole ebonics thing is bull crap, its just more or less an accent than i dialect. what is this country coming to?
__________________
Don't let me be.
Status: Offline
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Old Oct 27, 2005, 03:29 PM   #10 (permalink)
Diamond in the Rough
 
Meiwaku's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Canada
Posts: 303
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Meiwaku will become famous soon enoughMeiwaku will become famous soon enough
Credits: 436
Re: Ebonics for school credit?

Simply put by most people already, Spanish, French, Mandarin, Japanese, German, English (ESL)... these are all languages spoken by a wide variety of people all over the world, they are taught in elementary school, highschool and university alike because they are languages that are possibly useful in economics.

In Canada I know for sure if you want to work for the government in the upper status jobs you must be bilingual (English and French), and furthermore if you can speak both languages you are almost guaranteed a decent job with the government and what not.

But what I am getting at is, schools teach these languages because they have the potential to be useful.

Ebonics on the other hand is not even a language it's slang, at most I would call it a dialect that originated in the USA and dialects usually only pertain to their specific area. Anyone who is not from the USA and speaks in ebonics is probably someone who just adopted that way of talking because they think it makes them look badass or something, and no offence but people where I live who talk like that just come off as pathetic wannabes. It's a culturally specific linguistic utterance. And anyone who speaks it that's not from that culture sounds some what ridiculous, it would be like someone who is not British to just up and start speaking with a British accent all the time. (That's just an example I know an accent and a dialect, language, whatever are totally different things.)

Therefore it would be irreverent to teach Ebonics in schools, especially since the majority of people who speak in Ebonics speak and understand "Formal English" it would be pointless to teach it in schools. Unless your making a living in a US community populated heavily by Ebonic speaking individuals where would you ever use it? Don't get me wrong, I don't think it's a retarded abuse of the English language like people have claimed in the past (not on here) it's a way of speaking that pertains to a specific culture and if they feel so strongly about preserving it they can have cultural classes after school. In Ontario (Canada) most schools offer after school cultural specific classes for kids who want to keep their heritage, language and their culture.
__________________
- "Ash: Gimme some sugar, baby."-
Status: Offline
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Old Oct 27, 2005, 03:41 PM   #11 (permalink)
Ecchi Enthusiast
 
Miroku4444's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Missouri, USA
Posts: 3,226
Thanks: 2
Thanked 15 Times in 15 Posts
Miroku4444 will become famous soon enoughMiroku4444 will become famous soon enough
Credits: 13,737
Re: Ebonics for school credit??

Quote:
Originally Posted by Raven Omega
Yeah, let's teach klingon as well, that's just as useful.

Ebonics is not a language, nothing acknowledges it as such, just because Webster's dictionary is adding a couple words of slang here and there doesn't mean any of it has any meaning or value to the english language or on its own as a language. At the end of the day it's trash slang spoken by lower levels of society with absolutely no practical use whatsoever.
Dam, you beat me to it. I was going to say that.

This ranks up there with one of the most stupidist things ive ever heard. Instead of facilitating this stupid way of speaking, why not have programs set up to help ppl( who speak this way), to learn the kings english.
__________________


"You'll hunt me. You'll condemn me, you'll set the dogs on me. But that's what has to happen."
Status: Offline
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
 

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
No credit to the original artist Kikieru The Vault 23 Jun 21, 2005 09:03 AM

 


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 06:13 PM.


Manga Fox | Anime Wallpapers | Ringtones | Anime Avatars | Wallpapers | Anime Girls | Watch Anime Online | Anime Buddy Icons
Anime Online Banners by fooligar. ©
This Anime skin cannot be reproduced on any website without written permission from the Anime Online Staff.
Ad Management by RedTyger

SEO by vBSEO

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100