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    Re: Global warming

    Quote Originally Posted by miranda2354
    plution and garbage just hate it
    I have an idea you can take the garbage and send it to the sun
    if we send all our garbage to the sun we will pollute the sun aswell somehow.

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    Re: Global warming

    Quote Originally Posted by ketaro
    if we send all our garbage to the sun we will pollute the sun aswell somehow.

    The trash would be burned up long before it reached the surface of the Sun .



    Here is some food for thought in regards to the global warming issue.

    While global surface temperature have increased about 1 degree celcius over the last 200, the temperature in the troposphere have remained stable. Adn to add to the argument that temperatures on Earth are dynamic, two hundred years ago, the Earth experineced a seventy year period of Global Cooling (The period was known as the "Little Ice Age").

    There are things call positive and negative feedbacks. For example, increasing surface temperatures will increase the evaporation of water. Water vapor is a potent greenhouse gas, the water vapor absorbs Infrared (IR) radiated off the Earth's surface and the re-radiates it back, evaporating more water and more water vapor to re-radiating more IR. This senario is a Runaway Greenhouse Effect.

    One the other side of the spectrum, that same water vapor could condense, forming low altitude, rain producing stratiform clouds. These clouds act to reflect the Sun's radiant energy (mostly in the form of short wave visible light) back into space, not allowing it to be absorbed by the Earths surface. This has a net cooling effect.

    80% of CO2 put in the atmosphere is absorbed by microscopic plant life in the oceans

    CO2 does not burn holes in the atmosphere. CFCs do, more accurately, they burn holes in the Ozone. However, levels of CFCs in the atmosphere have been falling. Ironically, its been observed that a depleted ozone has a net cooling effect, as to why I do not know.

    Lastly, I would like to say that we live in a period between ice age, called an interglacial period. It has been observed that during such times, surface temperatures increase and a more arid climate existed until the ice caps began to grow and glaciers advanced into the lower latitudes. Thus my point is this, have global surface temperatures increase in the last century yes, is it due to global warming, perhaps, but having never experienced anything like it before with actual weather obseravtions (which have only been kept for two centuries) one could say it may not. This topic is prone to hype that plays on the fears of the uninformed or those pesimistic of mankind. Learning about global warming, and the factors that play a role in Earth's climate will help with eliviating some of those fears and to take whatever the media says about the matter with a grain of salt (You know how the news like to sensationalize).

    I would like to close by say this, no climate remains forever, the Earth is dynamic. Its always changing, reforming, never remaining idle. Keep that in mind.

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    Re: Global warming

    I agree with you. The world is always changing. we can't stop whats gonna happen. We can only postpone it.

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    Re: Global warming

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yeager the Great
    The trash would be burned up long before it reached the surface of the Sun .



    Here is some food for thought in regards to the global warming issue.

    While global surface temperature have increased about 1 degree celcius over the last 200, the temperature in the troposphere have remained stable. Adn to add to the argument that temperatures on Earth are dynamic, two hundred years ago, the Earth experineced a seventy year period of Global Cooling (The period was known as the "Little Ice Age").

    There are things call positive and negative feedbacks. For example, increasing surface temperatures will increase the evaporation of water. Water vapor is a potent greenhouse gas, the water vapor absorbs Infrared (IR) radiated off the Earth's surface and the re-radiates it back, evaporating more water and more water vapor to re-radiating more IR. This senario is a Runaway Greenhouse Effect.

    One the other side of the spectrum, that same water vapor could condense, forming low altitude, rain producing stratiform clouds. These clouds act to reflect the Sun's radiant energy (mostly in the form of short wave visible light) back into space, not allowing it to be absorbed by the Earths surface. This has a net cooling effect.

    80% of CO2 put in the atmosphere is absorbed by microscopic plant life in the oceans

    CO2 does not burn holes in the atmosphere. CFCs do, more accurately, they burn holes in the Ozone. However, levels of CFCs in the atmosphere have been falling. Ironically, its been observed that a depleted ozone has a net cooling effect, as to why I do not know.

    Lastly, I would like to say that we live in a period between ice age, called an interglacial period. It has been observed that during such times, surface temperatures increase and a more arid climate existed until the ice caps began to grow and glaciers advanced into the lower latitudes. Thus my point is this, have global surface temperatures increase in the last century yes, is it due to global warming, perhaps, but having never experienced anything like it before with actual weather obseravtions (which have only been kept for two centuries) one could say it may not. This topic is prone to hype that plays on the fears of the uninformed or those pesimistic of mankind. Learning about global warming, and the factors that play a role in Earth's climate will help with eliviating some of those fears and to take whatever the media says about the matter with a grain of salt (You know how the news like to sensationalize).

    I would like to close by say this, no climate remains forever, the Earth is dynamic. Its always changing, reforming, never remaining idle. Keep that in mind.
    Good read and standing point if i do say so my self.

    On the point of the ozone depletion having a cooling effect, there is nothing remotely ironic about it. It occurs because the warmth of the stratosphere is absorption of UV radiation by ozone, hence reduced ozone leads to cooling.
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    Re: Global warming

    Quote Originally Posted by solking
    I agree with you. The world is always changing. we can't stop whats gonna happen. We can only postpone it.
    I'm under the assumption that you speak of climatic / weather changes at this point [ relative to the thread topic ]. what you need to show me or any of the other readers what man can do to stop/postpone major weather/climate condtions. Man has no effect over these things. after all we are but man.
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    Re: Global warming

    Quote Originally Posted by death_knight
    I'm under the assumption that you speak of climatic / weather changes at this point [ relative to the thread topic ]. what you need to show me or any of the other readers what man can do to stop/postpone major weather/climate condtions. Man has no effect over these things. after all we are but man.
    There's not much we can do. I still believe in the 3 Rs. Reduce, Reuse, and Recycle. With these things in mind and time, we can fix some of the damage that has already been done by the human race. But stopping the weather and climate from changing, we can only pray that it doesn't happen in this era. Otherwise we may end up just like the movie day after tomorrow.

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    Re: Global warming

    Quote Originally Posted by solking
    There's not much we can do. I still believe in the 3 Rs. Reduce, Reuse, and Recycle. With these things in mind and time, we can fix some of the damage that has already been done by the human race. But stopping the weather and climate from changing, we can only pray that it doesn't happen in this era. Otherwise we may end up just like the movie day after tomorrow.
    In The Day After Tomorrow there was something screwy going on inside the earth, not outside, and it really wasn't man's fault.

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    Re: Global warming

    Quote Originally Posted by Metsuki Anba
    In The Day After Tomorrow there was something screwy going on inside the earth, not outside, and it really wasn't man's fault.
    That's true but we might end up going through a climate change similar to that one. No one knows what the future holds for mankind.

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