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    Golden State Senate passes gay marriage Bill

    Unpromted by any court order or ruling, the California Senate has passed a bill legalizing gay marriage, democratically and legally. No "judicial activism" here.

    SACRAMENTO, Sept. 1 -- The California Senate voted Thursday to allow gay couples to wed, becoming the first legislative body in the nation to approve same-sex marriage without a court order.

    The bill would recast the state's legal definition of marriage as a union between two people rather than one between a man and a woman.

    Yet it faces an uncertain future: The California Assembly narrowly rejected similar legislation in June, and Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (R) has given mixed or ambiguous responses on whether he would support or veto such a bill.

    Still, its passage, on a vote of 21 to 15, was hailed by advocates as a breakthrough for gay rights.

    "It will totally take away the argument that it is just 'activist judges' who are finding for marriage nondiscrimination," said Geoff Kors, the head of Equality California. "It's the people's representatives in the largest state in the nation doing this."

    Opponents deemed it an "arrogant" move in defiance of a voter-approved law limiting marriage rights to male-female couples. "Twenty-one Democrats in the Senate took it upon themselves to redefine marriage," said Benjamin Lopez, a lobbyist for the Traditional Values Coalition, "and they're saying that 4.6 million Californians are wrong."

    The vote is distinct from those in such states as Connecticut and Vermont, which more narrowly crafted the right to "civil unions" for same-sex couples while reserving the word "marriage" for heterosexuals. Massachusetts this year became the only state to grant full marriage rights to gay or lesbian couples, but only after the state's courts ruled bans on such unions unconstitutional.

    California has emerged as a key battleground in the debate over same-sex marriage. In 2000, the state's voters approved the referendum defining marriage as a union between two members of the opposite sex. But early last year, San Francisco officials issued marriage licenses to more than 4,000 gay couples, arguing that state law banning such unions violated the state's constitution.

    The state Supreme Court nullified those unions, citing state law. In March, a San Francisco judge hearing lawsuits from activists and city officials declared the law unconstitutional, setting up a battle that will eventually be heard again in the state's highest court.

    In the state capital Thursday, an emotional debate erupted, with proponents calling same-sex marriage a civil rights issue. Sen. Deborah Ortiz (D-Sacramento) likened arguments in favor of the state's current marriage laws to those used to intern Japanese Americans during World War II and to justify slavery. "History has shown that that was wrong," she said.

    Republican opponents said marriage between a man and a woman is a building block of society, and argued that the institution was created by God.

    A "higher power created the institution of marriage," said Sen. Dennis Hollingsworth (R-San Diego). "We should protect traditional marriage, and we should uphold all of those values and institutions that . . . keep our society together today."

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    Re: Cali Senate passes gay marriage Bill

    I always thought California would be the first one to accept it but now I know Massachusetts was first.
    The people probably got a bit tired of the same old republican defence tactics.

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    Re: Cali Senate passes gay marriage Bill

    Dont mean nothing unless its approved on a national level. Even if they get married there still wont be reconized offically as being married nationally. So no rights i think. Oh btw im against it though. I still feel its wrong.

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    I think that there are only gays and lesbeans in the world just cuz guys think there only good enogh for guys and same goes for girls but thats my opinouin
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    Oh boy... I don't agree with it, first of all. Also, I disagree with there being just gays in the world. You're not born gay. Nobody's born gay. If people were born gay, kids wouldn't try to watch a squiggly porn on Showtime at 2 am (like I used to... Er...). Anyhow, I guess I disagree all the way around.

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    Re: Cali Senate passes gay marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Orange 216
    Oh boy... I don't agree with it, first of all. Also, I disagree with there being just gays in the world. You're not born gay. Nobody's born gay. If people were born gay, kids wouldn't try to watch a squiggly porn on Showtime at 2 am (like I used to... Er...). Anyhow, I guess I disagree all the way around.
    Thats not entirely true....Some study shows something in the brain makes you attractive to the same sex(read an article about that a long time ago on msnbasically means your born with it)....As for my opionion I it makes you happy; Go for it.....And I think it is simply 'arrogant' to hold traditional marrages(dude and chick)and not approve it for gays...I thought this was America:Land of the free....Free to do anything as long as it was in the limits of the law.....And as far as I heard gay marrage is agenst the law...Shame on those congress bastards
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    Re: Cali Senate passes gay marriage Bill

    I guess, if that's the case, then straight people could never understand gays. Since it's a part of the brain that makes one attracted to the same sex, but then, how do gays understand straight people? And how do people "turn gay"? Sure it's acceptable. By all means, go ahead and be homosexual, if that's what your heart's set on. Should it be legalized? Depends on whether or not you think it should have been illegal in the first place. I don't know why anybody ever cared. If you are, you are and you'll go ahead and take the ridicule that comes with that I'm sure. If you're not, you're not and you'll go ahead and make remarks toward gays at least once in a while, I'm also sure of this.

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    You know what I really think that it is a very cool thing that California is doing this since it gives people hope that everyone can get along peacfully
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