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    "Israel must be wiped off the map"

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    The new President of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, made a call that shocked the entire civilised world. Declared he: “Israel must be wiped off the map”. He added that the establishment of “the Zionist regime” (Israel) was a move by the world oppressor against the Islamic world, and the Islamic umma (nation) will not allow its historic enemy to live in its heartland.
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    It has turned out that Ahmadinejad was not the first leader of post-revolutionary Iran to make this manner of incendiary rhetoric on the annual Jerusalem Day. Former President, Ali Akhbar Hashemi Rafsanjani, then sitting as the Chairman of the Expediency Council of Iran had, on the December 14 2001 edition of the protests, pointedly canvassed the destruction of Israel with nuclear bomb as soon as the Muslim world had access to it. Rafsanjani’s speech described Israel as a “forgery” of what he called the world Zionist movement which, in its arrogance, foisted an “artificial” Zionist enclave right inside the heart of the Islamic world.
    Three questions come to mind:
    Should Israel exist as a Jewish nation or was the land stolen?
    Is this why Iran wants nuclear weapons?
    Do you think Iran would actually try to nuke Isreal if they had them?

    Discuss.

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    Re: "Israel must be wiped off the map"

    1. Israel was created after WWII because jews weren't that much liked in Europe and the big 3 USA, Britain and Russia decided to create this jew land in muslim holy land without their concern, the muslims have the right to say that their land was stolen.

    2. Not sure about that but i think that Iran wants nuclear weapons to make look to the entire world that they have the capacity to have nuclear weapons.

    3. Well it might happen if Iran had them but i think that USA would interfere since USA was one of the sponsors of the creation of the state of Israel.

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    Re: "Israel must be wiped off the map"

    I don't think that forcing people off land that they have now settled on is fair?, and from what I know about the subject they hardly objected at the time either because the land was so barron anyway they couldn't do anything with it. Its just like Robert Magarbi destroying the homes of his people because they were built, so called illigally.
    The past is the past and it was given to them by the UN in the first place. It would be just like the British Empire claiming back what land they owned both in america and the common wealth, which would be utterly stupid. It is now their COUNTRY and their HOME
    As for nuclear wepons, I hardly think that a man who states that Isreal should be wiped off the map should even be running a country
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    Re: "Israel must be wiped off the map"

    Quote Originally Posted by ketaro
    1. Israel was created after WWII because jews weren't that much liked in Europe and the big 3 USA, Britain and Russia decided to create this jew land in muslim holy land without their concern, the muslims have the right to say that their land was stolen.
    Isreal was around for thousands of years before WWII, it had been destroyed and was only restored after WWII. I will not argue that the US, UK and Russia may have supplied them weapons but the jews did the fighting and took back thier land in 6 days. Now orignally it was the Caaninites which the Isrealites took by "promise of God" from them. It was the Jew's land on and off for thousands of years before the muslim religion even came into being, To say that they took the muslim holy land from them is only partially true. But when you consider the fact they built thier Mosaic on top of the ruins of the Jew's temple and the fact that it has been the Jew's holy land for thousands of years before, to me is thier own fault. In fact some would say the only reason they (muslims) claimed it for thier own was to despite the Jews. The whole Esau getting back at Jacob thing.
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    Re: "Israel must be wiped off the map"

    Quote Originally Posted by chiefblackhammer
    Orignally it was the Caaninites which the Isrealites took by "promise of God" from them. It was the Jew's land on and off for thousands of years before the muslim religion even came into being, To say that they took the muslim holy land from them is only partially true. But when you consider the fact they built thier Mosaic on top of the ruins of the Jew's temple and the fact that it has been the Jew's holy land for thousands of years before, to me is thier own fault. In fact some would say the only reason they (muslims) claimed it for thier own was to despite the Jews. The whole Esau getting back at Jacob thing.
    well yeah bro you have a good point there, but wasn't god that punished them (jews) because of their sins. god gave the muslim the jew land.

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    Re: "Israel must be wiped off the map"

    Quote Originally Posted by ketaro
    well yeah bro you have a good point there, but wasn't god that punished them (jews) because of their sins. god gave the muslim the jew land.
    Yes, punishment but he gave it to the Assyrian's and Babylonian's and then the Romans, the few times it happened. But now yeah they later like a thousand years later they became muslim countries but I don't think God ever intended for it to be anyone elses but the Jews. Things is there is no reason they couldn't co-inhabit, they just hate each other too much and over nothing really.


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    Re: "Israel must be wiped off the map"

    There are many other countries that exist in this world that should be removed off the map, but that doesn't mean it should be so.

    Truthfully, I feel that Israel should settle their problems along with those whom they have conflict with.

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    Re: "Israel must be wiped off the map"

    Quote Originally Posted by Kakashi Hatake
    There are many other countries that exist in this world that should be removed off the map, but that doesn't mean it should be so.

    Truthfully, I feel that Israel should settle their problems along with those whom they have conflict with.

    They have for thousands of years, but how do you settle things with people whom hate you?


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