vb0xn4rd

Well, it finally happened. After SuprNova was shut down so Sloncek could make adware ridden filth, I had to find elsewhere to dl stuff using BitTorrent. A couple sites I managed to find were TorrentStop/LokiTorrent. As you Torrenters out there prolly already kno, Loki got sued by the MPAA a while back for "illegally" providing access to copyrighted material. Most people (myself included) thought torrent sites would be somewhat immune (legally, anyway) because they don't actually host any of the files. However, the MPAA seems to have won its lawsuit, because both Stop/Loki have been shut down. And the MPAA being what it is, they will prolly be suing all kinds of BitTorrent users pretty soon. Now, BitTorrent can obviously be used to ul/dl all kinds of legal stuff, but if it ceases being a viable means of dling the quasilegal stuff, will BitTorrent stopped being used altogether? If so, it would be a huge loss, because BitTorrent is an amazingly useful program.

Discuss.

aceman67

Bittorrent is an Amazing program, and it can be used for Legal stuff, like say, downloading Fan-Subs of anime that hasn't been Licenced.

If you look around, you can find torrent sites that are still up (TorrentReactor, Bit-Ance, TVtorrents) And there's always Exeem, which you can find an Exeem-lite version.

Some of my favorite Anime Torrent sites are [*link removed*] (Great site where you can find anything Asian related, torrents are currently down right now as they re-work their system) and [*link removed*] (Great Anime site. Been going there for almost a year now, Becarefull about your share ratio though, they get militant if its below 1.00, I've got a ratio of 1.2)

__________________

Zui Quan

Sorry, had to remove the links since they provide torrent links for licensed anime.

__________________

narrator

Well, it was inevitable really......

__________________

LenMiyata

Grumble Grumble Grumble

In addition to shutting down LokiTorrents.com, the courts also ordered that all server logs be handed over to the MPAA... Its only a matter of time before more lawsuits against individuals are filed...

Related CNET article...
http://news.com.com/Court+Hollywood+...3-5571782.html
http://news.com.com/MPAA+files+new+f...html?tag=st.rn

Which only goes to show that you should not consider anonymous Internet downloads to be truly 'anonymous'.

__________________

youth_anime_fan

I realize why they are cracking down on bittorrent so hard, but I have to remind everyone that there are always alternative ways of doing something. Once I found out the hazourdous risks of bittorrents, I proceeded to find an alternate route. I have found Direct Downloads of unlicenced anime/music. You do have to pay for older unlicenced animes(like a week old or so) but I can download the newest ones for free. Weather or not this is called "leagal" i have yet to come to a decition on it, but for now, they don't seem to be cracking down on that.

As of bittorrent, you usually have to make very darn sure that you only download unlicenced stuff, but as with dd, it usually is ALL unlicenced. (or has preset conditions)

So that's why I never use bt, because the MPAA is focusing just on bittorrent right now.

Sinistra

I don't see why they don't hit Limewire of Kazaa I guess because they are legal P2P networks?

__________________

nova

they've hit kazaa in the past there was a big raid on kazaa's offices awhile ago.

As far as I'm concerned, lokitorrent was terrible with bad seeds, and after all that money people donated(30-40,000 USD), everyone still got shafted.

I can't see how the MPAA can sue without getting countersued for invasion of privacy. and from what I've seen on other forums, mr. loki better watch his back because some crazy kids have more than just his IP address to track him down.

the thing about this whole MPAA deal is that they can't touch sites on foreign land. so the only people who will get sued will be kids here.

it's interesting that software companies haven't stepped in at all out of all businesses that are really losing the most money. while the MPAA loses a 8 bucks for their crap movie Troy, Gates is losing 150 a pop on WinXP Pro. then again, I doubt much people care about the richest man in teh world losing money.

__________________

dark_glaive

I'm sure that if Microsoft was noticing losses they'd be cracking down. As long as the person you buy your PC from isn't giving you a bootlegged copy of XP, Microsoft probably couldn't care less. There isn't really a huge demand from people sporadically buying the OS in the store seperate from a PC in the first place.

__________________
Dont make your sig that big again or I'll de-brain you---administration

nova

but people are always upgrading, and besides XP, there is MS Office, adobe hundreds of other applications that outnumber movies that come out per year. what i'm saying is that the software industry is much bigger than the movie industry, yet they aren't whining about it.

__________________

KnightofNi

well, in terms of MPAA, the reason why Loki-Torrent was most likely shut down was because people were posting american made movies on torrents for it, I believe that the MPAA is focusing on the American movie making business now, the will most likely get into anime later sometime, but in terms of reasoning, people download American movies. I don't think BT will be forever lost but I do think that the more MPAA starts hunting, people activities will continue to go more underground.

__________________

Clan orders: Wear the signature of defeat with pride.