Yes, but it wasnt as trashy as the rap crap. It never was degrading to the level rap music is. The worst rock song dont come close to one rap song.Quote:
Originally Posted by datapimp
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Yes, but it wasnt as trashy as the rap crap. It never was degrading to the level rap music is. The worst rock song dont come close to one rap song.Quote:
Originally Posted by datapimp
Honestly if I were a woman I wouldnt listen to rap because I couldnt relate to it. I have to listen to music I can relate to to enjoy it...
Back on topic, I do think it is degrading because it is, but because of the media it is in and what it stands for people are willing to let it slide for whatever reason. I guess it doesnt piss enough people off, I dont know.
But look at the flip side, there are plenty of female vocalized music that rips men as well, so its not like men are the only ones degrading women, it works both ways. Men just use it alot more often and more noticable.
^ that's true. You don't hear swear words nearly as often in the degree it is in rap. It's almost not a rap song if it doesn't have some sort of swear.
i'm one of those, i don't choose sides, i just stand and watch the debate. I'll make an exception today though. I'm a guy (don't let the avatar fool you, that's my sweetheart.) and when it comes to women in those videos.... I cringe. I mean, I can't stand to look at women doing the stuff they do. I'd never let my girl do that stuff (not that she'd want to either...) I use to like most rap, but don't listen to it much anymore. All music has the potential to be good, but when all you do is talk about sex or what not..... it's just not right. It's sad that what could have been such a good art form, somehow got destroyed, like many other things in this God Forsaken World.....
I would respectfully disagree. I would also like to know when people started to think that if someone chose to do something all of a sudden it was exempt from being degrading? If a woman or man decides to become a prostitute just because they chose it themselves doesn't stop them from degrading themselves by their choice. And really, isn't that what all of them are doing? The men sell out for the "babes and c$sh" and the women prostitute themselves for the "bling".Quote:
Originally Posted by pyoro-pyoro
Grumble Grumble Grumble
The problem is, the issue isn't limited to the influence of the youth of this country, it also includes the view point that rap music presents to the rest of the world...Quote:
Originally Posted by pyoro-pyoro
Quote from a AP news article posted today...
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... said he witnessed the phenomenon recently while in Africa. Touring a village in Mozambique, he came across a shack on which someone had scrawled the name of slain rapper Tupac Shakur.
"I was asking the kids: What is it about Tupac? Why is that there? I kept asking why. They were saying we want to dress like you dress, wear all the things you wear, talk how you talk."
The full article can be read here...Quote:
"It's real important to have balance of the imagery. Yes, there are people who fire guns in the street, but there's also doctors who go to work in those areas to feed their children."
The gangster lifestyle is celebrated in black communities for its strength, Smith said. "That's the image of survivors. The dude that sells the drugs or has the guns or is most willing to kill somebody is the dude that has the greatest potential for survival, or at least that's the perception. So that's what people strive for.
"What I'm trying to present and what a lot of other artists are presenting is a different approach to survival and a more sound approach to survival. It's a more long-term approach based on intellect and skills that can't be taken away from you: The smartest dude survives the best."
Will Smith Urges Rappers to Be Role Models
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050627/...RrBHNlYwM3NjI-
i am a girl duh but i don't think rap music is degrading to women i have listend to rap music since i was 4 so no its not and i am not 19 by the way
You've actually never listened to the lyrics then have you. Maybe this will open your eyes a bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by dark frog
Yup 50 cent at his finest.Quote:
Man this hoe you can have her, when I'm done I ain't gon keep her
Man, b*tches come and go, every nigga pimpin know
Wow this isn't depicting women as sex objects at allQuote:
With a body that rides all sexual
I got a stick, I'll ride right next to you
Do a doughnut, and cut, and I'll open it up
On the freeway, d*ck in her mouth, foot on the clutch
Rule b*tch, not givin' a f*ck
Ahh promoting violence toward women, how manly.Quote:
You f*ck with us, b*tch, something gettin' broken
Your leg, arm, jaw, nose, pick a part.
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...gangsta rap, a popular West Coast music style distinguished by lyrics that graphically describe scenes of gunplay, sex, drug use and violence, often depicts women negatively; their roles rarely extend beyond being kidnapped, held hostage, brutally gang raped at gunpoint, or murdered. 24 Studies have found that exposure to rap music does, in fact, "tend to lead to a higher degree of acceptance of the use of violence (including violence against women)."
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One woman is raped every two minutes in the United States.
I'm not saying Rap is to blame, but some of the songs do promote abuse or non-empathetic views on women.Quote:
Every nine seconds in America a woman is physically abused.
http://www.mediascope.org/pubs/ibriefs/vwm.htm the whole article here (which doesn't just single out rap music)Quote:
There is no simple explanation for the frequency of violent crimes against women, but it has been suggested that one contributing factor may be the way women are portrayed in the media. Women are often depicted as victims of violence or as sexual objects, and researchers have found that these media portrayals may influence how women are viewed and treated in society.
and here is a really intreasting read http://www.albany.edu/scj/jcjpc/vol8is2/armstrong.html