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    Religion vs. Science

    Having grown up in a Christian family and having friends of many religions, I often find myself trying to convince people that science isn't a lie from the devil (And yes, they are that stubborn). When Humans were in the early stages of civilization, science and religion went hand in hand. The science was usually wrong and based off of philosophy, but it was a start. With the rise of more advanced philosophies and more advance equipment Humans began to explore the past and what lies beyond our planet. After that it seems science became the anti-Christ. Much of modern science contradicts our religions, such as the creation of Earth and the solar system by God vs. the Big Bang theory, the creation of humans vs. evolution, etc.

    My question is this: Do you believe that you're religion holds all the answers, do you believe that science is truth, and disproves religion, do you believe that science is a "religion" of it's own, or do you believe that the Earthly religions and science go hand in hand? Though a lot of science is just theory, often with lots of observations and tests to back them up, there are many things that we cannot deny that bring question to all Earthly religions. Things like the existence of other worlds outside of our galaxy and the existence of other galaxies, proof of life long before humans, expansion of the universe, etc.

    Which is right; religion, science, both, neither? Or is it something that humans simply cannot comprehend and thus is something we could never know?

    Enlighten me...
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    Re: Religion vs. Science

    well religion was created by man, and so science was created by man too, i don't see who really has the answer to all our questions. Sometimes science is wrong on some stuff so is the religion that we believe in....

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    Re: Religion vs. Science

    Quote Originally Posted by ketaro
    well religion was created by man, and so science was created by man too, i don't see who really has the answer to all our questions. Sometimes science is wrong on some stuff so is the religion that we believe in....
    Science and religion aren't really things that we can create. They're ideas, something that exists whether we study it, use it, or acknowledge it or not. For as long as anything has existed there's been religion and science, though there may not have been anything else XD.

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    Re: Religion vs. Science

    Grumble Grumble Grumble

    The technical description of 'Science' is that it is a Philosophy that views, measures and analysis the world using the rules of logic. Science can only comment on topics that can be measured and observed in a consistent fashion, either directly or indirectly. As a result of this, Science can comment on something invisible, such as the electrons inside a atom, but it cannot comment on topics such as 'What is the meaning to life', which can only be covered by religion.

    Many famous scientist of the past (Darwin, Linius, Einstien) viewed their studies of science as an attempt to further understand the works of God, and to indirectly gain some insight on God. Science is not a replacement for Religion (contrary to the positions of may atheist...), while at the same time, Religion is not a replacement for Science.
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    Re: Religion vs. Science

    Quote Originally Posted by LenMiyata
    Grumble Grumble Grumble

    The technical description of 'Science' is that it is a Philosophy that views, measures and analysis the world using the rules of logic. Science can only comment on topics that can be measured and observed in a consistent fashion, either directly or indirectly. As a result of this, Science can comment on something invisible, such as the electrons inside a atom, but it cannot comment on topics such as 'What is the meaning to life', which can only be covered by religion.

    Many famous scientist of the past (Darwin, Linius, Einstien) viewed their studies of science as an attempt to further understand the works of God, and to indirectly gain some insight on God. Science is not a replacement for Religion (contrary to the positions of may atheist...), while at the same time, Religion is not a replacement for Science.
    So in a sense, they can co-exist if viewed for what they are, not for what people take them for. The problem with science is that most people see it as black and white, and in a few cases that I know of, some people believe that science is used to disprove religion. While modern science does bring question to the truth of biblical stories, such as Adam and Eve, it can never bring question to the existence of God.

    I'm beginning to think that, rather than destroying the religions of man, modern science is simply working it's way towards changing the details of what we've believed fopr thousands of years. As science evolves, and our grasp on the universe extends, our beliefs must bend a little. As we further understand the aspects and workings of God, and as we further understand ourselves, our beliefs must also expand to accommodate what we understand and what we find to be truth. At least, that is the way I see it.

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    Re: Religion vs. Science

    Quote Originally Posted by ketaro
    well religion was created by man, and so science was created by man too, i don't see who really has the answer to all our questions. Sometimes science is wrong on some stuff so is the religion that we believe in....
    I agree... I also have grown in a religious family (we're catholic) well I stopped going (and believing) in church when I was like 10 years old and decided it was hypocritical bull...I just don't belive that a superior life form created us from dust (or something like that) I belive in Evolution...
    If they really had a desire to live, they would've been more aware of how easy it is to die.

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    Re: Religion vs. Science

    Quote Originally Posted by Cheza
    I agree... I also have grown in a religious family (we're catholic) well I stopped going (and believing) in church when I was like 10 years old and decided it was hypocritical bull...I just don't belive that a superior life form created us from dust (or something like that) I belive in Evolution...
    Well its possiable to believe in both.

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    Re: Religion vs. Science

    Quote Originally Posted by Cheza
    I agree... I also have grown in a religious family (we're catholic) well I stopped going (and believing) in church when I was like 10 years old and decided it was hypocritical bull...I just don't belive that a superior life form created us from dust (or something like that) I belive in Evolution...
    Don't get me wrong, by no means am I religious; but in the end the same thing goes for evolution. Even if we evolved from a lifeform as simple as bacteria, something had to have created it. Personally, I don't think that a sepreme being "created life" at all. All it takes is all the right substances; water, oxygen, a certain temperature range, etc. But even then, the stuff we're made out of came to be somehow. That's the part that I think is simply beyond human comprehention.

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