PsiKnot

I know their different, I was attempting to demonstrate that. In the future I won't use sarcasm as a literal device.

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Arrianna

In my opinion the problem isn't registration but the fact that these crimes are taken to lightly. Sexual preditors may not actually (sometimes) take a life (or they would be charged with murder as well/instead) but they do destroy them. It is my opinion that as a society we value sex so lightly that people who commit crimes with sex are seen as a nusience more then a threat. If such crimes were held to the standard of manslaughter (just under murder) and had corresponding jail times and paroles then there would be less/no need to discuss registration.

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LoL Sorry. That's my fault. Didn't catch the sarcasm.

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PsiKnot

Regardless of how long they are incarcerated they should still be tracked after release. Some are still a threat to society.
I actually think that sexual crimes should be treated worse than murder, more like disfigureing or maiming someone. They ruin peoples lives, how long does it take to recover from something like that, if it can be done.
In some cases murder can be somewhat understood or even justified. Rape or molestation can never be either, under any circumstance.

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Agent Orange 216

Exactly. This is one of the main points I've been trying to get across. Glad to see there's agreement, on that point in particular.

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Arrianna

If murder is justified it is considered manslaughter. Personally I consider rape to be on par with murder and that both should have a death sentance for mass/repeat murder/rapists but I'm not holding my breath. I will be content if it is simply raised to the level of manslaughter with a 10-15 year parole (with registration and psycological evaluations) on top of many, many, years of incarceration instead of the slap on the wrist they recieve right now.

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PsiKnot

point taken.
At the very least.

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Also, keep in mind that not all sex offenders are rapist and child molestors. If you were secretly taking pictures of teen age girls changing in their locker room and get caught and convicted, that would be enough to classify you as a sex offender. (And how many boys in high school have tried to do this???)

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There are huge variences between states on what qualifies as a sexual offense. Voyeurism is not a sexual offense requireing registration in most states. In the end it is all decided by the individual judge or jury. There are many things taken into account ie. Offenders age, victims age, consent, violence, was there threat of bodily harm, a weapon, mental conditions, and reprocusions for the victim like did they develope a mental condition as a result of being photod, assaulted, raped, or druged. But as I said
The good outweighs the bad. So the peeping tom has to register but then again so does Chester down the street. Besides by the time that your old enough to be convicted as an adult you should know better.

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I know I'm late in response, I apologize.

I find it rather absurd that you would compare a group of former SEXUAL PREDATORS to those people who suffered persecution in Germany. The latter obviously never harmed anyone.

And how is having them register an affront to their civil rights? The registry only informs people of these former predators to protect their children and neighbors. Why are you against these people's right to know? Have you not check the reconviction rate? Granted, its 1 out of 5 who commit the same crime after conviction, but the rate in itself is not that informative because it only accounts for those who were actually arrested by police. Who knows what the 4 out of 5 are doing. Honestly, I think you're being naive.

LenMiyata

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Now didn't Hitler refer to the Jews as a deviant subhuman race? The issue isn't so much about persecuting Sexual Predetors, it's about the legal precedent that these laws create. Because of the 'Due Process' clause of the US constitution, laws (and their legal precedents) cannot be limited to a single group, but instead, are applied to all groups. Historical precedent shows that these kind of laws have been abused by the powers that be in the past, and now doubt, they will be abused by the powers that be in the future. And once laws have become established, it's very difficult to have them removed. Look how long it took to diable the 'Jim Crow' laws that were established when segregation was outlawed by the Supreme Court. Or that fact that US immigration quotas are still based on the laws passed during the 'Eugenics' movement in the US at the start of the 20th Century...

And as var as recidivism of criminals are concerned, the high reconviction rate isn't limited to sex offenders, it extends to nearly all the felony catagories (rape, murder, armed robbery, assualt, burglary, etc., etc.) So just on 'Due Process' principles, why should registration be applied ONLY to sex offenders??? (And if they should be applied to everyone with a felony conviction... 'Big Brother' is watching...)

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