Thread: Time Travel

A fourth theory is that time is simply a medium that allows change to occur and that its perception from a human standpoint (hours, minutes, past, future, ect.) have no actual relevance and are purely attempts to understand something that is truly beyond comprehension.[/babble]

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I really think there are places science just should not go. The laws of nature are there for a reason. They've worked thus far, why try to change them?

Very good topic with very good in sights....One question, has any one read anything about 10 dimensions or anything? one of my friends mentioned a book regarding it but I can't seem to get in touch with the title or anything ATM. It was about how us as humans can't conceive more than 3 or 4 dimensions (time being the fourth) but does that mean that other dimensions don't exist? Maybe to other beings who perceive greater than 4 dimensions, we are like drawings on paper (2D). It was a very interesting discussion.

Originally Posted by False Truth

So, Would you call it, and act against God's(referring to christian god or any other religion god) will?

*my own opinion and my own views of God*
Hm....I wouldn't call time travel an act against God if it is possible. It's the distruption of life as we know it....it is not an act against God. God does not make our choices, he doesn't always know what choices we will make out of our free will. I believe people CAN change their own destiny. Therefore I don't see it as an act AGAINST God, but an act of distruption to time and destiny. Depending on what they do in the past/future during their time travel....THAT may be act against God (IE: killing Jesus/Mary before Jesus was able to fufill prohecies, for those who are Christian).

Originally Posted by Juggernaut

I really think there are places science just should not go. The laws of nature are there for a reason. They've worked thus far, why try to change them?

Hm...to a point, I agree. Time travel would be crippling to the world if it gets into the wrong hands or even handled with the slightest error. But...to not discover and question time travel because it distrupts the way we think or the way we live our every day lives is a wrong belief.

I mean~ back in the day, people were fine and dandy with thinking that the world was flat, that flying was only for birds and that we were the center of the universe. When people questioned the unknown they were shunned and persecuted. The discovery of something and trying to handle it are two different things. I think that if time travel is possible, people should look into it and even find out how. But this sort of travel needs to be controlled...much like space travel or cloning is relatively controlled.

As for benefits, I don't really see benfits comming out of it right now. Distruption of time means the distruption of a lot of things that go on in life, its a power easily abused and we're not clear what can be done with it which is good. I mean, yeah~ it's cool to meet people of the past, etc...but won't that in itself affect the future? Taking up Jesus' time to talk to him may very well mean he misses meeting an apostle, or saving a life, etc. Killing Hitler before he starts war may also mean economic turmoil and a slow down in technological advances or wars of a different kind. Because we're not all knowing or whatever, I don't see how we can use time travel to make good. Intentions may be good, but because we don't know the end results, no one can say if what a person changes in the past will do any real good.

A child needs to fall before learning to get back up, to balance before walking. We can only understand hope through pain, happiness through saddness, etc, etc.

Anyone here watch Quantum Leap? Great series about time travel.

Originally Posted by AnimeFreaks

Personally if anybody were to actually beable to go back in time, then they or u or w/e can't change time. Cause time has written that you went back in time. So..

haha, actually that happens a lot in Quantum Leap. In one episode, Sam saves a guy choking on food using the Heimlich maneuvre. Then as he's walking away, you hear someone asking the guy, "Dr. Heimlich, are you allright?" Interesting to think about these things. boggles your mind if you spend too much time doing it ^_^

Originally Posted by Juggernaut

I really think there are places science just should not go. The laws of nature are there for a reason. They've worked thus far, why try to change them?

For the sake of knowledge, my friend, for the sake of knowledge! And besides, i what makes you think we know the laws of nature? a 'law' -as we call it- is just something that we haven't been able to prove wrong yet.

and i haven't heard of any 'law of nature' which says "thou shalt not time travel"

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Originally Posted by BlueTigerFour

and i haven't heard of any 'law of nature' which says "thou shalt not time travel"

I personally have yet to hear the one which states: "thou shall be pulled towards the earth at 9.8m/s by gravity in free fall"

lol no law of nature says "thou shalt...". Most laws of nature do not simply pertain to "thou".
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*just jabbing couldn't resist!!!

Originally Posted by Juggernaut

I really think there are places science just should not go. The laws of nature are there for a reason. They've worked thus far, why try to change them?

Science goes beyond the laws. It's not places that they should not go but it's places that they will not go. Scientists are as smart as they are skeptical. They are too scared of what a machine or device of that potential would do, so they wouldn't dare to build it.

Now about this time line. Does anyone think that we can go forward in time? If now is now, and the future is unseen and unpredictable, then is there even a future part of the timeline or is it just past and present?

We wouldn't need time travel if people didn't screw things up so bad the first time around, haha. I mean we can't be perfect but we also can prevent ourselves from making a big enough mistek to have to go back in time to fix it.

As for if it is even possible, well there is no way to really say that something can't happen/exist. However I don't believe we'll be seeing time travek any time soon.

Originally Posted by False Truth

Science goes beyond the laws. It's not places that they should not go but it's places that they will not go. Scientists are as smart as they are skeptical. They are too scared of what a machine or device of that potential would do, so they wouldn't dare to build it.

Now about this time line. Does anyone think that we can go forward in time? If now is now, and the future is unseen and unpredictable, then is there even a future part of the timeline or is it just past and present?

Sure, if it's a linear timeline there's no reson you can't go forward as easily as back. Afterall, it's only unwritten to someone in the process of living it. From outside it's complete. One moment is as good as the next.