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    Marihuana is one of the most desvastating drugs in the world it makes you stupid and moron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrianna
    Actually the "Industrial" Hemp plant (that fabric and rope is made from) is a completely seperate and distinct variety of the cannabis plant then marijuana. Not only won't you get high on hemp, if you tried to smoke it it would give you a whopper of a headache. Likewise it is impossible to make fabric with marijuana fibers. The two plants are not interchangeable.
    Actually, this is not quite completely true. Industrial Hemp and Drug Market Pot are 'varieties' of the genus/species Cannabis sativa, and are easily close enough to still inter-breed. The only significant difference between the two is that Pot has been selected for THC content, while Hemp has been selected for it's fiber content, (but it still contains traces of THC, enough to give you a buzz if you smoked enough of it, and to make you test positive for a drug test...) This is one of the issues of the reintroduction of Hemp as a legal crop, as it would be very easy to breed something that looked like the commercial Hemp crop, but have the drug grade THC content. And from the law enforcement point of view, having to perform a lab analysis of THC content before making a pot bust arrest is simply unworkable... The selection for THC has gotton so good for drug grade Hemp that the MJ that is in circulation today is a much more potent drug then what it was when I was a teenager, (and no, I didn't smoke it...) with a THC content of over nine times greater then the common Mary Jane of the 1970s

    There isn't much of a demand for Hemp products in the US, and all the exhibits I've seen advocating the return of Hemp (with claims that the original San Fransico Levi Jeans were made from Hemp textiles) always have people that look like back to earth hippy types then Future Farmers of America types... I also remember reading a report put out by the US Department of Agriculture saying that the current US demand for Hemp products, (fiber and oil) could be met with only a few hundred acres of production, and was not worth the time/money to promote. The demand for Hemp rope took a big hit with the introduction of rot proof nylon rope...
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    I would love your resources on that. According to what I have read there are over 500 varieties of Cannabis of which Industrial Hemp and marijuana are only two. Each variation has different levels of THC (tetrahydrocannabinol) and are capable of crosspollenating (like many other plants). Hemp has less than 0.3% THC which is not supposed to be enough to even get a buzz and if crosspollenated with marijuana it supposedly drops the levels of THC in the marijuana plants below useable levels. The reason for the difference in the two breeds of plant is supposed to be due to the fact that Hemp is cultivated for it's stalk, roots, and seeds and the marijuana plant is cultivated for it's fleashy leaves (edit: ) and flowers. (...I knew I was missing something. ) If you go back far enough Broccoli, brussels sprouts, cabbage, cauliflower, and kale come from the same plant and will still crosspollenate freely as well but you cannot convince me they are the same plant now.

    As for growing it in the States, why bother when we can buy it from Canada.
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    Actually, the most desirable part of the Marijuna plant is the female flower clusters, as they are the part of the plant that has the Highest THC content. Back when I was getting my first college degree at U.C. Davis (the most renown Agricultural research university in the US), one of the favoite 'topics' of some of the members of the dorm floor was the subject of Pot breeding. And yes, while some plant varities do have some breeding barrier seperating them, Cannibas does not have them. (the fact that Cannibas plants are dioecious, with seperate male and female plants makes cross-breeding and selection that much easier) I wouldn't be surprised to find that most of the varieties would be regional in nature. (Since Cannibas is wind pollinated, it would be difficult to keep a variety strain pure in a mixed planting...)

    Oh, and speaking of Chenpodia varieties, have you seen the Broccoli/cauliflower hybrid that's available in some markets???
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    Quote Originally Posted by LenMiyata
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    Oh, and speaking of Chenpodia varieties, have you seen the Broccoli/cauliflower hybrid that's available in some markets???
    Tried it. It didn't really appeal to me. I'm sure someone likes it though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ketaro
    Marihuana is one of the most desvastating drugs in the world it makes you stupid and moron.
    I've done just about everything, Not only marijuana. Claiming marijuana makes you a moron is so biased. Here I am, on my way to a bachelors, getting paid to go to college, live in my own apartment, and making a cool 14 bucks an hour. I've been smoking marijuana for 6 years now, and been doing other..substances that i won't dwell into now, for around 3 years. The use of weed and other drugs depends on your state of mind. In No way can you get addicted to weed, it depends purely on how you cope to it. But I will admit it lots of ways can it lead to other drugs. That's proof with me. But I know people who are smart and successful and they toke up any time they want.

    Pro Marijuana Man, Pro Marijuana.

    Edit: I'm certainly positive there will be no intention on making Weed legal. Do you know how much the U.S makes on arrests for drug possession alone? I don't either, but I know it's alot.


    All this Weed talk. It's too bad Amsterdam went with the Euro too, so now an ounce is basically as much as you can get here i nthe states. But I remember when I went and bought some good White Rhino for cheap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ketaro
    Marihuana is one of the most desvastating drugs in the world it makes you stupid and moron.
    If your serious, that statement just made you look like a moron. Well, in my eyes at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fate
    On the other note, weed makes people lazy and kills alot more braincells. And the fact that it does have cancer causing materials in it doesnt make it better. Any drug is bad, but weed isnt as bad as people think it is.
    Weed doesn't make people lazy. The people are just lazy. Look at a lot of the hard working people in Jamaica and stuff. I know frequent smokers who can hold a job AND maintain a 4.0 GPA.

    Also, Cannabis DOES NOT kill brain cells.

    "No study has ever demonstrated cellular damage, stupidity, mental impairment, or insanity brought on specifically by marijuana use."

    http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabi...faq1.shtml#3-3

    ^That document is somewhat biased though.

    Why do people assume combustion is the only way to consume Cannabis? I just say ingest it and you can get around the whole lung cancer issue. And on occasion, smoking wouldn't be that bad anyways. Just compare it to a day in Tokyo :-P (People smoke like mad and the pollution in the air)

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    Quote Originally Posted by dark_glaive
    If we are going to let people drink alcohol, we might as well let them smoke marijuana. There's no use enforcing laws that are going to be broken on such a wide scale that harm only the user directly. I don't smoke marijuana, I just don't like seeing tax money wasted.

    Marijuana's actually ten times more harmful than alcohol. Alcohol actually helps to reduce heart attacks if drunk in an adequate amount once in a very long while. Marujuana's just too harmful. It screws up your brain, then your life. I've SEEN my friends struggle from the withdrawal symptoms of Marijuana. Their eyeballs go in deep to their eye sockets and they look really pale and tired. Not only that, they lose their temper every five minutes. It's not funny and Marijuana's definately not better than cigarettes. TAR in cigarettes + Marijuana = death. :]

    That's why I've quit smoking. And mind you, I've never done Marijuana in my life.

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