OK, OK, OK, this has gone on long enough. I'm closing this topic. This is no longer a debate it's a group of people valiantly fighting a losing battle against the unbreakable forcel of sheer ignorance and stupidity.
I'm not going to call out those individuals who are being morons as I've called them on it before and it seems that they would rather be idiots than learn anything.
As for the topic, the only people qualified to answer the question at hand with any sort of veracity are those who have spent considerable time in BOTH China and Japan. Since those folks aren't posting the rest of the drivel (being based on the unreliable information of TV and random websites) needs to be curtailed.
Thank you for playing. Johnny, tell them all about their consolation prizes.
Clan? What Clan?
I'm the Master. I need no Clan.