Xenosaga & beyond

jd_cloudstrife · May 14, 2005, 10:13 PM

if everyone that has played and beat both der wille zer macht and...the other one then what is your thoughts on the end of the 2 one? what do you think will happen next?

*Wrath* · May 14, 2005, 10:17 PM

I thought the gamewas just dumb. It looked like it was made by a suicide cult. I really dont know how the 3rd one will start. Its freakin Xenosaga I have no clue

TallonKarrde23 · May 14, 2005, 11:12 PM

Der Wille Zur Macht was really great, atleast to me. Specially cuz Kos-Mos is just adorable

but then

the new one came out.....and the horrible-ness of it cannot be explained in words. Not only did the game suck IN EVERY ASPECT but they made EVERYONE UGLY AS HELL to boot.

jd_cloudstrife · May 14, 2005, 11:35 PM

well i liked the second one because well i guess cuz the damn jerk (albedo) finally dies...or does he? ne ways the ending is what was so so cool

*jaderabbit* · May 15, 2005, 07:06 AM

I havent got t play the second.. and never planned on it... cause of all the negative things i've heard about it. But the first AWESOME!!!!

*ketaro* · May 15, 2005, 08:01 AM

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the first AWESOME!!!!

yup! sure it was. lol

Dnite · May 15, 2005, 01:07 PM

yeah, Ep 1 was very very good, however Ep 2 didnt live up to the hype it had. I thought the game was WAY too short (I think that if u removed the optional dungeons available after finishing the game, u could have put Ep 2 on a single disc or put both episodes on a single ,2DVD, game). Story-wise, Ep 2 simply completed Jr and Albedo's story, while leaving the rest of the gang up for grabs, specially Ziggy and Chaos. The ending simply gave even more unanswered questions, specially after Albedo "death" (I put in quotation marks cause anyone who saw the ending might reconsider whether he's actually dead or not), while saying that there will be an Episode 3.

jd_cloudstrife · May 15, 2005, 10:13 PM

my question Dnite is do u think that Albedo is part of the UDO now, seeing the man in all white at the very end makes me think so, the story on ziggy might be short because all thats really happening with him is the story between the UDO guy and his family and prolong-tation of his life, and for chaos well just a "guess" but i think he might just be an angel lol

*Gin Nightingale* · May 16, 2005, 01:49 AM

Well, XS Episode I is way better than XS Episode II. Then again, I liked the second episode's battle system better. I think both games were really nice. I like the story very much. One could only guess what would happen next.

As for chaos being an angel, well, I have no idea. Sure he has all these official arts with six wings but... Well, I have no idea what he is. But I'm sure he's not human.

Dnite · May 16, 2005, 02:32 AM

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my question Dnite is do u think that Albedo is part of the UDO now

yeah considering that the guy Kosmos killed on EP 1 also joined them (i think Virgil was his name), also if u look closely the way he stands is almost the same as Albedo did, and what a coincidence, he appears only after Jr beats Albedo and he's even wearing the same cape (if I remember correctly).

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the story on ziggy might be short because all thats really happening with him is the story between the UDO guy and his family and prolong-tation of his life

if done right, it can be a long story, although not as long as Jr's. After all that small moment was the first time Ziggy actually showed any kind of emotins, so he must really hate the guy. But then again, unless the 'UDO guy' actually appears on other episodes I suspect his story will be touched lightly.

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and for chaos well just a "guess" but i think he might just be an angel lol

for the moment ur guess is as good as mine, although I think he's related to the head of Vector, the other guy with white hair (I always forget his name). And I also agree with Gin, chaos cant be human. He was on Miltia during the conflict and even though its 14 years later, he still looks the same, and always knows more than what is going on, although he keeps quiet. And besides killing a Gnosis by simply touching it is simply too much to ignore.

*Gin Nightingale* · May 17, 2005, 12:37 AM

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for the moment ur guess is as good as mine, although I think he's related to the head of Vector, the other guy with white hair (I always forget his name). And I also agree with Gin, chaos cant be human. He was on Miltia during the conflict and even though its 14 years later, he still looks the same, and always knows more than what is going on, although he keeps quiet. And besides killing a Gnosis by simply touching it is simply too much to ignore.

Yeah... I think so, too. The other guy with white hair, Wilhelm, and chaos has to have some sort of connection with each other. I mean, Wilhelm did talk with chaos in one scene and they seem to know each other.

Then again, the fact that chaos does not age makes me wonder. Helmer was the one who 'introduced' chaos to Canaan therefore Helmer has to know about the non-aging chaos. With that stated, Canaan, Rubedo, Nigredo, Jin, Margulis (if he's observant enough), Matthews, and the Elsa crew has to at least know something about him as well. I'm surprised that chaos trusts this many people with his secret. I wonder when his true identity would be revealed...

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jd_cloudstrife Newbie Join Date: May 2005 Location: Nibelhelm Posts: 37 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Credits: 160	Xenosaga & beyond if everyone that has played and beat both der wille zer macht and...the other one then what is your thoughts on the end of the 2 one? what do you think will happen next? __________________ "Why do people depend on each other? In the end you're on your own..." Squall Leonhart
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TallonKarrde23 Diamond in the Rough Join Date: May 2005 Location: So Cal Posts: 100 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Credits: 110	Der Wille Zur Macht was really great, atleast to me. Specially cuz Kos-Mos is just adorable but then the new one came out.....and the horrible-ness of it cannot be explained in words. Not only did the game suck IN EVERY ASPECT but they made EVERYONE UGLY AS HELL to boot. __________________
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jd_cloudstrife Newbie Join Date: May 2005 Location: Nibelhelm Posts: 37 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Credits: 160	well i liked the second one because well i guess cuz the damn jerk (albedo) finally dies...or does he? ne ways the ending is what was so so cool __________________ "Why do people depend on each other? In the end you're on your own..." Squall Leonhart
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Dnite Diamond in the Rough Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Colorado Posts: 149 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Credits: 923	yeah, Ep 1 was very very good, however Ep 2 didnt live up to the hype it had. I thought the game was WAY too short (I think that if u removed the optional dungeons available after finishing the game, u could have put Ep 2 on a single disc or put both episodes on a single ,2DVD, game). Story-wise, Ep 2 simply completed Jr and Albedo's story, while leaving the rest of the gang up for grabs, specially Ziggy and Chaos. The ending simply gave even more unanswered questions, specially after Albedo "death" (I put in quotation marks cause anyone who saw the ending might reconsider whether he's actually dead or not), while saying that there will be an Episode 3. __________________ Evil is actually in my job description
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jd_cloudstrife Newbie Join Date: May 2005 Location: Nibelhelm Posts: 37 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Credits: 160	my question Dnite is do u think that Albedo is part of the UDO now, seeing the man in all white at the very end makes me think so, the story on ziggy might be short because all thats really happening with him is the story between the UDO guy and his family and prolong-tation of his life, and for chaos well just a "guess" but i think he might just be an angel lol __________________ "Why do people depend on each other? In the end you're on your own..." Squall Leonhart
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Gin Nightingale The Siggeh Maker Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Somewhere between fantasy and reality Posts: 344 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Credits: 210	Well, XS Episode I is way better than XS Episode II. Then again, I liked the second episode's battle system better. I think both games were really nice. I like the story very much. One could only guess what would happen next. As for chaos being an angel, well, I have no idea. Sure he has all these official arts with six wings but... Well, I have no idea what he is. But I'm sure he's not human. __________________ I close my eyes, wishing you were by my side But that is just wistful thinking...
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