Dragon Ball (Feb 12, 2008)
The idea is really good and I like it.
Plus it is not so much to ask one single payment of $20, and it will be for our own benefit (members). Removing the adds would be amazing... however... those "annoying" adds are what reduce the costs for DB. But yet he gives the option of removing those just for $20.
On the other hand I understand those that do not have access to money yet... (well even I do have access... I don't have much of it ^_^;; ). Believe me I do understand... and I know that DB understands that too 'cos he is adding a free removal just by sending him the links...
I think that's a fair deal. Also I think it is a way to support the site ^_^... and I re-state this... it is a benefit for us (members). It is only one payment of a minimum amount of money... and you don't have to... it is if you want to remove the adds... and yet there is a free option. ^_^
Nothing less from Pyro ^_^ Great Sig ^_^ THANK YOU!!!!"show me.... THE BEAST!!!" The Beauty and the Beast movie
Dragon Ball (Feb 12, 2008)
Like I've said in a previous post: Pre-Paid credit cards are very easy to get a hold of. If you're under 18, you can get your parents to get one for you, and if you don't have money, there is only one solution to that and its going to be painfully obvious: Get A Job. Pure and simple.
I bought my first computer working at McDonald's. Its not that hard to make a lot of money in a short amount of time. Especially when you're young and you have no expenses like rent, car loan, groceries and bills.
My question is this "is it requiring for anyone to pay 20USD everytime you wish to remove ads?"
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Originally Posted by Dragon Ball View Post
OR, let me go one better. If you can link back to AO from your site, blog, facebook profile, myspace page etc.., I will remove the ads for you for FREE! Just PM me the page where you have linked to Anime Online.
Last edited by Dragon Ball; Feb 12, 2008 at 06:04 PM.
is there a reason the ads need to interrupt threads? I mean, other than to be obnoxious and force users to pay you $20 for a site they provide all the content for anyway? :P
It's one thing to offer an option to remove the banners and leave them where they've always been. Sticking them in a new, far more disruptive place serves no purpose but to make the site incredibly obnoxious for those of us who won't fork over the cash.
I've donated more than enough money and time to this site already... I admit, I'm a bit insulted. I think there are others here without the mod status who also have the right to feel a little betrayed.
As for the "Running cost" schpiel. This site passed through 3 other owners: none implemented thread-intrusive advertisements... and they all seemed to think the site would make them enough money to purchase it in the first place in spite of not having been long-term users or people we'd ever even heard of. People don't run sites like this out of the goodness of their own hearts. They run them to make money. I'm curious to know the ACTUAL bill involved with this site's operation and how much revenue it generates by selling advertising space/promotions/etc.
If bandwith is indeed such a problem, it would be easily throttled just by denying gallery access to non-members.
I find it hard to believe that DB is running this site out of charity... or that he doesn't intend to make a profit if he possibly can.
And while there's nothing wrong with that: if he wants members to provide the content he's going to sell -- he should find a way to sell that content without stepping on members toes (or they will stop providing it at all).
As for alternatives which have worked for other sites (and this one in the past):
-partnerships/sponsorship with/from relevant advertisers
-collections to pay the ACTUAL server fee (ie. users are given the option of donating money directly to the service provider)
-auctions of donated items
-general donations (which are rewarded with "contributor" status bars or other profile bling)
If the ads don't interrupt the threads, then what's the point of having ads? To hide in the corner and make no impact?
If you wont fork over the $20, then you can always get a back link into AO and the ads will be removed. I do offer a non-monetary means of removing the ads. It's simple give and take, rather than take take take. Simple.Originally Posted by tsurara
Thank you for your time and money. It is appreciated. You shouldn't be seeing the ads anyhow as you're a mod. Mods do not see the ads.Originally Posted by tsurara
I'm seeing them now.Originally Posted by Dragon Ball
And reguardless of whether I see the ads or not, deceptive/intrusive advertising WILL discourage intelligent users from sticking around here.
Frankly, there are too many other places, just as good, to hang out... and they haven't got ads in the middle of every page.
This WILL backfire in terms of forum quality and morale. They did the same thing on Gamefaqs last year and reversed it in 8 hours because so many people were so unhappy.
On a site with so few users to begin with, we should be doing all we can to make membership MORE appealing; not more annoying/expensive.
As for take-take-take... I think as a free translator, scanner and owner of an ad-free website that costs over $300 a year to host: I know all about it. This site "takes" quite a lot from me too. Magazines are not free, nor is my time. That's the way fandom works now, unfortunately. But you win more flies with honey than vinegar.
I would gladly pay $20 if I thought it would be used to improve this site. But I haven't seen enough improvement here to give me that confidence.
This site WAS improving... gradually... but this is a step in the wrong direction.