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    Re: America: Silent Witness to Genocide

    Quote Originally Posted by tsurara View Post
    while we literally watched the slaughter of over a million people in Rwanda (twice the number killed in the Holocaust)
    Last I checked Tsu, over 6 million European Jews were killed in the holocaust, and that number doesn't include the number of people killed for not fitting Germany's idea of perfection (Soviet POW's, The Roma (Gypsies), Roman Catholic Poles, Gay men, the mentally and physically handicapped, the list goes on). Include those numbers, and its anywhere from 9 to 11 million.

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    Hey you're stealing my punchline!

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    Re: America: Silent Witness to Genocide

    It's simple. Why get into something that's not beneficial to them? I should state I'm not American, but I still feel the same way about my own country sometimes, even about all developed countries some times. Also, I don't know all the facts about international politics and things are probably way more complicated then I'm stating..

    We only like to interfere if there is something invovled.

    I'm ashamed to say that I don't know anything about those genocides you talked off, except what I've seen in movies and the little that is on it in the media some times. But I've learnt heaps on the Holocaust and thanks to the media know some what about 9/11.

    First, no offence is intended with this statement, but I'm sure many people have thought of this somewhere along the line. Thousands of people were killed in 9/11 and the media made a field day out of it (meaning it was on the news 24/7). However, thousands of people are being killed all around the world due to other un-just reasons, yet the media says nothing? no one seems to give a hoot?

    So many horrifiying things happen yet, most of it, never gets attention by the western world. I think it partly has to do with that. This so called division between those countries that are first world and those that are third worlds. Prehaps there is a view within governments/peoples that ' It's the third world, it happens'

    Until of course they find something worth, getting in there for. I mean, they seems to be boasting about getting the evil dictator Saddam out of power and how good they are that the people are now 'free' from his rule. Yet there are heaps of other countries that would want a free way of life - no one cares.

    And what about the thousands of people that are dieing and suffering from AIDS everyday? Those that are starving because there own governments don't give a damn for whatever reason? What about some government actively committing genocide to get rid of the Native people of the country (Australian Government with the Stolen Generation).

    The olympics! ha! what a joke, when you look at it, it's basically saying 'come to the olympics and support our dictator ship'. But I also think that it's an oppurtunities to get their voices out, so it will be interesting to see what happens when the 'free' media of the world goes to china.

    Why do we worry so much about the Holocaust and 9-11? Because it affected mostly wealthy, caucasian, Judeo-Christians from the developed world? Could it be we're being unintentionally (or intentionally) racist by ignoring the numerous human rights abuses still being perpetrated in Asia and Africa?
    and you know what, I wouldn't be surprised if this was the reason. But, I think it also has to do with the fact 'It's not harming us why should we care or waste money on it?' - though America seems perfectly happy wasting money in Iraq rather than trying to use that money in fixing their own problems in their own country.

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    Re: America: Silent Witness to Genocide

    Oh and the reason Americans are so shocked by the 9/11 attacks is that they had never been attacked by a foreign power like that.

    (And I theorize that it's also the reason why Americans seem to be so eager to jump into combat whenever they can. The USA has never been severely damaged/destroyed in a war.)

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    Re: America: Silent Witness to Genocide

    Quote Originally Posted by Hassun View Post
    The USA has never been severely damaged/destroyed in a war.)
    Aren't we forgetting Vietnam here. Unless, you are talking about a war here in USA soil.

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    Re: America: Silent Witness to Genocide

    Quote Originally Posted by ketaro View Post
    Aren't we forgetting Vietnam here. Unless, you are talking about a war here in USA soil.
    Yes I am talking about attacks on regular American people and American soil.
    Btw, if you're just talking army casualties you should have picked WW2.

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    Re: America: Silent Witness to Genocide

    Quote Originally Posted by Hassun View Post
    Yes I am talking about attacks on regular American people and American soil.
    Btw, if you're just talking army casualties you should have picked WW2.
    I wasn't referring to casualties. You said that America never had lost a war. That's why i brought up the Vietman war; a war that America suffered a lot of damage and on top of that lost to the Vietcoms.

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    Re: America: Silent Witness to Genocide

    Quote Originally Posted by aceman67 View Post
    Last I checked Tsu, over 6 million European Jews were killed in the holocaust, and that number doesn't include the number of people killed for not fitting Germany's idea of perfection (Soviet POW's, The Roma (Gypsies), Roman Catholic Poles, Gay men, the mentally and physically handicapped, the list goes on). Include those numbers, and its anywhere from 9 to 11 million.
    My bad. The site I was using for my numbers gave only the stats for Hungary: 600,000. Looking elsewhere gets me the 6-11 million number. I was in a hurry (writing during afterschool break, which is 14 minutes long)!

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