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Old Oct 26, 2007, 08:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Baby Talk - Helping Or Hindering?

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Speaking to young children this way sounds sweet and motherly, but it may also slow down language development. A study published in Cognitive Psychology suggests that speaking in complex sentences to young children may set a better example and improve their language skills.

Janellen Huttenlocher, Ph.D., head of the developmental psychology program at the University of Chicago, observed 305 local children in 40 preschool classrooms. She found that children whose teachers used complex speech—sentences with multiple nouns, verbs or clauses—had higher language-comprehension skills.

In a separate study, Huttenlocher found that children whose mothers used more complex language were more likely to do so themselves. But parent/child studies cannot confirm that the way we speak to children affects their language skills because the results could be attributed to genetic or other factors.

Lisa Washington, head nursery and kindergarten teacher at the University of Chicago Laboratory Schools, agrees that baby talk is a hindrance: "Grown-ups feel they have to talk slowly or loudly or with a singsongy voice to kids." She says this doesn't challenge children to learn new language skills.

What may seem like common sense to preschool teachers has been a subject of hot debate by scientists. For years, many researchers assumed that language was programmed into the brain from birth, says Huttenlocher, because all babies have similar grammar patterns when they first start to speak. Linking language skills to environment, she says, "was a real scientific thrill."

taken from Psychology Today: Baby Talk Hinders Learning

You all know that when you were young (most of you), your mother and father degraded their speaking ability to 'help you' but as this article shows, it might be doing worse. discuss, do u think talking like 'sweetly and simply' helps the baby, or hinders his or her learning.

I beleive that it hinders the baby's learning. when i was young, my parents talked to me in polish, and when i was 3, i was fluent in polish (well, as fluent as a baby of 3 that has just learned a language....) i talked to them about this and they believed that yes, 'baby talk' comforts the kid because of the high pitched sounds and the funny words (wa-wa, ba-ba) but in the long run it is doint more damage.

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Old Oct 26, 2007, 10:53 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Baby Talk - Helping Or Hindering?

I dont think baby talk is bad for real young kids(Newborn to 3 years), but after that it needs to stop. Speaking to these kids in complex sentences, probably wont do to much good. I dont think they comprehend it at that age. After that it would be a good idea to start talking in complex sentences.
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Old Oct 27, 2007, 07:47 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Baby Talk - Helping Or Hindering?

I don't see it as hindering. As long as you break the habbit from after 3 years like Miruko says then it should be fine. Once the child starts to learn new words and are around people who speak fluently then it will help them. if you keep the child separate from other kids then they are going to learn. That to me is more important than being mummy cuddled for most of the childhood.

I am one who speaks in baby language, it helps to connect and bond with the child. There is no point talking proper english to a child who doesn't understand a word your saying. So talking like they do helps them I fell.
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Re: Baby Talk - Helping Or Hindering?

I think baby talk is unnecessary. Provided you maintain a soothing pitch, there is no reason that you cannot speak properly to your child. Why shouldn't a three-year-old know what being "facetious" means?

I know of two little children who request trips to the lavatory in order to "urinate" and "defecate." Neither of them is over five. They know what the words mean and use them properly (as they should).

In short, if I have children I will not speak in "baby talk."
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Old Oct 28, 2007, 12:01 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Baby Talk - Helping Or Hindering?

i believe it babies are repeaters also. so you say something they repeat it and then when you try to teach them a better tearm they stick to that one word. baby talk does hinder a child.
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Old Oct 28, 2007, 05:27 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Baby Talk - Helping Or Hindering?

Honestly, I think a child observes more about communication when it ISN'T being spoken to directly by a parent than he or she does when being coached with baby talk. The practice probably isn't doing the children any favors (and it makes you look ridiculous), but I'm guessing any actual harm to long-term linguistic development is negligent.

Babies speak nonsense to each other too... and it's been implied that those interactions improve their linguistic development. The most important thing is that you're taking the time to interact with your child at all.
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Re: Baby Talk - Helping Or Hindering?

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i believe it babies are repeaters also. so you say something they repeat it and then when you try to teach them a better tearm they stick to that one word. baby talk does hinder a child.
But Its interesting to see that the people who think its hindering at mostly males. Makes me wonder if secretly men do speak baby talk without knowing when they do it. As a female, its kind of natural to do baby talk because its a mother instinct to try and bond with a child.
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Re: Baby Talk - Helping Or Hindering?

I hate baby talk! It's okay, I guess if the kid's like a couple of months old. But, when they reach like one or two years of age, that's when I think you should start talking to them like they're big kids. I can't stand when people use baby talk with my son. HE'S BLOODY TWO YEARS OLD!

How is a kid supposed to have a decent vocabulary when he/she is still talkin' like a baby at the age of five??
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Re: Baby Talk - Helping Or Hindering?

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You all know that when you were young (most of you), your mother and father degraded their speaking ability to that of a retarded mexican immigrant to 'help you' but as this article shows, it might be doing worse. discuss, do u think talking like 'sweetly and simply' helps the baby, or hinders his or her learning.
I didn't know my father at that point in my life. (Not that I've ever been told anyways.) So I know he didn't have a chance to. I know my grandmother probably did, because she's funny like that because she tells other people it's not a good idea. And I know my mother didn't really do it. She read to us a lot and did her best not to use baby talk. When we started using our own words for things it was a little harder I imagine. Especially cus it's so darned cute.
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I beleive that it hinders the baby's learning. when i was young, my parents talked to me in polish, and when i was 3, i was fluent in polish (well, as fluent as a baby of 3 that has just learned a language....) i talked to them about this and they believed that yes, 'baby talk' comforts the kid because of the high pitched sounds and the funny words (wa-wa, ba-ba) but in the long run it is doint more damage.
I agree whole heartedly. It's a proven fact that teaching an infant from the start is the best way for them to learn multiple languages it's harder the older you get. And that includes sign language. It's SO cute too, my best friend does the ABC's in sign language for her almost 1 year old who is starting to verbalize sylables and he watches really intent for a while and will open and close his hand trying to do it too. I think that using baby talk damages a childs way of speach. It would explain why children who aren't really taught to speak right, for an example, my adopted siblings, they were raised sitting infront of the tv with no one practically litterally no one talking to them in person. Not their siblings, they'd been removed from the home, and their parents were addicts and they were HIGHLY neglected. They virtually taught themselves to talk. When they were five and three and came to live with us, the five year old talked like a two year old practically, and the three year old was bairly verbal. So the two make each other make even more sence in my mind, despite them being totally seperate (Before now) conclusions/thoughts.
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Re: Baby Talk - Helping Or Hindering?

I don't think that baby talk is necessarily a bad thing for young children up to a certain age, they may not understand what they are hearing for awhile but just the tone of the voice introduces them to affection at an early age.
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Re: Baby Talk - Helping Or Hindering?

I think baby talk is not only pointless but just plan wrong.
When the kid gets older there all like "Why is he retarted." and your response is, "I taught him that!" Yeah fell pround that another poorly taught child has entered in to the world as a spectial need kid when he dosen't drull on the dime. NO BABY TALKING PEOPLE!!! ITS REDUNDENT AND RETARTED!!!
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