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    changing the pledge of alligance

    okay, the surpreme court is debating on weather or not to take the part"under god" out of the pledge becasue not everyone believes in god. i say let it stay the same becasue it's been like this since the 1940's and they been saying it since this nation was founded so what do you think?

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    Re: changing the pledge of alligance

    I don't see how the whole under god part is hurting anybody, and when I went to school you had the right to not say the pledge if you didn't want to. I don't know why they have to take it as far as removing the words.

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    Re: changing the pledge of alligance

    I know you guys don't read so I'll summarize it. This is basically saying that the pledge of allegiance originally didn't have the "words under god,"
    in it. So if you remove the words under god you would be basically changing it to it's originality.

    The Pledge of Allegiance was written for the popular children's magazine Youth's Companion by socialist author and Baptist minister Francis Bellamy on September 7, 1892. The owners of Youth's Companion were selling flags to schools, and approached Bellamy to write the Pledge for their advertising campaign. It was marketed as a way to celebrate the 400th anniversary of Columbus arriving in the Americas and was first published on the following day.

    Bellamy's original Pledge read as follows: I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. It was seen by some Brightonians as a call for national unity and wholeness after the divisive Civil War. Bellamy had initially also considered using the words equality and fraternity but decided they were too controversial since many people still opposed equal rights for women and African Americans. Bellamy said that the purpose of the pledge was to teach obedience to the state as a virtue.

    After a proclamation by President Benjamin Harrison, the Pledge was first used in public schools on October 12, 1892 during Columbus Day observances. The form adopted inserted the word "to" before "the Republic."
    The Knights of Columbus in New York City felt that the pledge was incomplete without any reference to a deity. Appealing to the authority of Abraham Lincoln, the Knights felt that the words "under God" from Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address were most appropriate to add to the Pledge. In New York City on April 22, 1951, the Board of Directors of the Knights of Columbus adopted a resolution to amend their recitation of Pledge of Allegiance at the opening of each of the meetings of the 800 Fourth Degree Assemblies of the Knights of Columbus by addition of the words "under God" after the words "one nation." In the following two years, the idea spread throughout Knights of Columbus organizations nationwide. On August 21, 1952, the Supreme Council of the Knights of Columbus at its annual meeting adopted a resolution urging that the change be made universal and copies of this resolution were sent to the President, the Vice President (as Presiding Officer of the Senate) and the Speaker of the House of Representatives. The National Fraternal Congress meeting in Boston on September 24, 1952, adopted a similar resolution upon the recommendation of its President, Supreme Knight Luke E. Hart. Several State Fraternal Congresses acted likewise almost immediately thereafter. This campaign led to several official attempts to prompt Congress to adopt the Knights of Columbus’ policy for the entire nation. These attempts failed.
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    Re: changing the pledge of alligance

    first off colmbus didnt discover america. no duhn the indians were there way before columbus set foot on the land. and yes i your right, it has been in the pledge since the 1940's but they have been saying this nation is "under gods" for a while so they thought it was best fit in the pledge

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    Re: changing the pledge of alligance

    Ah New Yorkers putting in their 2 cents. Nothing new there.

    Anyway this isn't really new. The Supreme Court has been talking about it for years now. I hear about this around 2004. But should it really matter if they take the "under God"? This country is supposed to have equality among every race and religion. How can we have that if our pledge our allegiance states that was are to be united under God. It doesn't say which God we are to be united under but what about religions that have multiple gods. What about them? Are they excluded from our nation.

    Anyway I really don't care if its there or not. It doesn't effect me.

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    Re: changing the pledge of alligance

    first off solking i am not from new york. so ya!! READ THE SIG.

    and i dont care if it gets changed or not. i dont say it cuz at the school i go to they dont.
    and it is kinda dumb to change it. if you dnt feel comfortable saying it then dont

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    Re: changing the pledge of alligance

    It was dumb to change the pledge in the first place.
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    Re: changing the pledge of alligance

    i just say if you dont wanna say it then dont. you dont have a gun to your head and some one saying "say the freaking pledege dammit!"

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