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    Re: chidren and the death penalty

    Well for what ever reasons they did it. I say they still at the age of 13 or 14 are developed enough to know what they are doing, and should be help acccountable. Yes there are some that fall into the category you described. When they want to try a kid as an adult, stuff like that is taken into consideration.Which would probably result in the kid being placed into juvy untill he is 18.
    Others feel the way i do to, or no young minor would have ever been tried as an adult. Some kids are smarter than you think. I was trying to say with that "Just a theory" thing, Is that the theory you found is just one theory. I bet they're are theorys for the opposite view point too. Theres a theory for everybody out there.

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    Just to argue both sides, there is a much higher rehabilitation rate for youth offenders then adult offenders, significantly so. Probably for many of the reasons that vegeta is mentioning. If there is a chance of rehabilitation then it should be attempted. Repeat offenders who have failed rehabilitation should be tried as adults however. Choice is still choice and if they choose to continue to do such things they should face the consequences.

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    Re: chidren and the death penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Arrianna View Post
    Just to argue both sides, there is a much higher rehabilitation rate for youth offenders then adult offenders, significantly so. Probably for many of the reasons that vegeta is mentioning. If there is a chance of rehabilitation then it should be attempted. Repeat offenders who have failed rehabilitation should be tried as adults however. Choice is still choice and if they choose to continue to do such things they should face the consequences.
    Thats because the child is not set in there ways really. An adult is, and is hard to change.

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    Re: chidren and the death penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Miroku4444 View Post
    Thats because the child is not set in there ways really. An adult is, and is hard to change.
    But criminal behavior is based on heredity, not how you were raised. As long as the criminal exists and is allowed to breed, the future offspring will spread the higher tendency to commit crimes to the future generations.

    Children's minds are "hard-wired" by the time they are born. Eighty percent of that is heredity, while twenty percent is based only on the prenatal environment (the womb). So, the only case a criminal could argue a "bad childhood led me to this", is if his mother had enough chemicals in her system to significantly alter the child's condition in the womb.

    Death is the only way to phase out crime, as it is not simply a matter of trying to teach the offender. The offender will ALWAYS have the tendency to commit crime within him, and if they have offspring, those children are more likely to have criminal tendencies. The only sure-fire way to eliminate bad, defective genetics is by killing off the carriers of those genes before they can further spread into the gene pool.

    As for children being treated as adults, you'd think by age 10 they are capable of telling right from wrong. You can't tell me the 16 year old who killed his sister while play-wrestling with her was too stupid to realize he could inflict fatal injuries to a person with his own hands. Any normal child knows how to refrain from using excessive force.

    Some members of this forum mentioned before that it is the parents' responsibility to raise the child to know right from wrong. That is true, but the parents should not be held liable for the actions of a child beyond the age of 10, or when a crime has been committed. After all, a child of any age must report earned income as their own on federal tax returns (don't believe me, go check out "Federal Taxation: 2007 Edition"). If a child can be held legally responsible by the federal government to report their taxable income, they must also be held responsible for their own actions in more severe crimes.

    The death penalty is seen nowadays as simply a means to set an example, but it must be remembered why, historically, the death penalty existed. How can you trust an individual who has already proven themselves willing to commit violent crimes against another? The answer is, simply, you cannot. Living with such a person is a liability on the citizens, and on the State. The only two options available to deal with an untrustworthy person are death, and exile. Since the latter leaves the opportunity for the criminal to return (hint hint, Napoleon being banished to the island of Elbe), death is the only other option.

    Finally, as mentioned by several people in this thread before, they have implied that our generation is somehow special, that the last few decades have somehow been different from other periods that the crime rate is so high. Also, it has been suggested that the crime rate in America is far higher than that in other countries. This is hardly the truth.

    The real cause is the people who pass on the genetic traits which lead to a tendency for criminal behavior. Throughout the 1930s, with more liberal political positions being taken to "humanely" treat the undesirables of society, those undesirables have prospered, allowing their offspring to grow unchecked. Allowing charity to interfere with rational political policy has been a defect in our nation since the republican and democratic parties were first formed, replacing the Federalists.

    America is hardly the nation with the highest crime. In fact, it has been with the elimination of gun ownership in Japan, Australia, and England that those nations have seen a staggering rise in murders, often committed by criminals still heavily armed (thanks to the black market).

    If one wishes for crime to be reduced or even eliminated, any crime which makes the criminal a questionable member of society must be followed with swift, unwavering capital punishment.

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    Re: chidren and the death penalty

    pretty much kids have it worst than anybody, lawyers, police, housewives, anybody, because the only penalty they gonna get is getting death, plus anyone our age have them smoke weed or drink beer, and smoking cigerattes. their death isnt their fault, its actually ours.

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    Re: chidren and the death penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by fayt lingod View Post
    are you kidding? for one thing a 10 year old would (generaly) have a hard time raping someone. and for another, you aren't an adult till ur 18, b4 that it is the parent's fault if the kid is a delinquent.
    where i live its not uncommon to here about a little kid raping some one else they think its cool
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    Re: chidren and the death penalty

    only about 50% of children are gonna make it to college because by the time they realize of who's missing that there fault for letting that child getting killed, raped, or murdered. it aint something simple for a child's life

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    Re: chidren and the death penalty

    I'm against the death penalty altogether. So, of course, I'm agaisnt children bring executed!

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