Joe Mage

That may not b completely true, although Gideon Mantell may have been the first ta "officially" have stumbled across dinosaurs in modern times; there's some evidence that has led some scientists ta believe that humans may have known 'bout dinosaurs since even 'fore the ancient Greeks, they jus' never coined the phrase "dinosaur." Instead, as some scientists suspect, that many of the creatures of ancient "mythologies" may have been formed from the imaginations of ancient ppl who stumbled across old dinosaur fossils, long 'fore Gideon Mantell found his. Suspected dinosaur fossils have been found, even documented (and lost?) in ancient temples ta various gods of various civilizations, by archeologists, who threw them away 'cause they couldn' make the connection ta the signifigance of their findings. If these civilizations knew 'bout these fossils 'fore the inception of the Bible, then it only stands ta reason that ancient Jews and Christians would know 'bout them too.

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alyne

i believe that we were created, because if we evolved from monkeys, wouldn't there still be humans showing up every now & then with apes for parents????
but then again i'm not saying that i'm right

Scourge

That's not the way evolution works, all be it there can be branch off from the "family tree" but just because they diverged doesn't mean that we don't have a common ancestor when apes were starting to come around. The reason why we are related to primates as the chimp is because of how close our DNA is to there's. They are our cousins, and not exactly a direct descendent.

Ok I will give that the Neanderthals were not Human do to evidence of mtDNA testing, but when read deeper, the reason why the Neanderthals are not a direct descendent or Human is because they didn't, or couldn't contribute to the gene pool of modern man and this is where there are gaps in the DNA. So are they Human, no, but did we share a common ancestor way back when, yes. MtDNA testing confirms that we did have a common ancestor. But to say they are Human, no. And mite I point out that when you look at the age of ancient Humans and our Neanderthal cousin they are way older then 10,000 years old. Test have been done by using not just carbon dating but also the rock and sediment layers they have been found in as well as using mtDNA testing and all three point to almost the same date, all of which far accedes 10,000 years.

xbeyondxthexgravex

Yea but are we not told a we grow up it take thousnd of years for sediment layers to form and same with fossils right but they have found tree that are fossilzed up throught sediment layers like i said befor, and if it takes thousand of years how could that be.

Well that just it, it couldn't could it. but if we look at the bible then it would may be possible that when the flood hit it washed up sediment and even tree and animals and different sediment would sink at different rates, making layer and so would certan animals and put them in different layers in the sediment and it would even be logical to say that one side of some tree took on water faster sank to the bottom and was covered by the sediment standing up and the mass amount of sediment plus the all the water presure could make fossils a lot faster than we are led to believe so for those reasons i think just some of the stuff we are told are just theories just like what i told you just know but i think my theories make more since.

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There was a global flood as said in the bible but in the bible it was greatly exaggerated. The flood was cause by the end of the little ice age, causing the sea level to rise dramatically. How ever, the flood did not completely engulf the planet and all its land masses. The interior of Africa was untouched by the flood do to the fact that Africa for the most part is one massive Plato. Now The river systems of Africa did back up and over flow their banks, but the majority of the continent was untouched, and these remains and the sediment layers were unaltered. Europe has many large mountains that are in Europe interior, where the flood did not reach or even get near. And even if it did, the remains of our ancestors and cousins were at such a high altitude that they were out of reach, once again, their sediment unaltered.

Joe Mage

Not only that but the story of Noah and the Flood can be traced back ta a story that is found in the myth "The Trials of Gilgamesh" and that story is based on a story that even pre-dates the myth. A real written account of what happen ta a merchant in ancient Mesopotamia, who had gotten washed out ta sea durin' a flood. This account is very similar ta the story of the biblical flood and Noah, even though this flood had flooded only the area around Mesopotamia and didn' envelope the entire world. The account even says that the merchant even settled in the same region that the biblical Noah is supposed ta have settled. Scientists found this account written on small clay tablets found in the region where Mesopotamia had been. The History Channel had a show that covered the story of Noah and the Ark where they had covered this account and compared it ta the story of the biblical flood.

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xbeyondxthexgravex

yea thats cool i never heard that but its still just a comparison we dont know thats what happened and honistly i do believe the flood covered the world

and if the sediment was unaltered how do you get tree that go throught sediment layers it just dont add up

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If the flood smothered the whole world, you would have a massive global extinction. Thousands and thousands of plants and animals would have died and their bodies would have been found in water altered sediment. Water, be it fresh or oceanic in salt leaves behind a different type of sediment because of chemical composition as well as coloration, the way it’s designed and patterns in the soil caused by currents. I’m no geologist but this is what I do know. The fact is that if there was a global flood, plants and animals would be found in this form of sediment all around the world which they are not how ever. And what I ment by being unaltered was that there was no sediment water saturation that would have been caused by a flood expecialy of that scale. As for the trees going through sediment, well, sediment can also be contributed by winds blowing bits of dirt, dust and rocks all around the world and lets not forget geological activity that can shift the sediment around. Think of how it is in the desert where you get those massive sand doons. They are pilled up by wind and sand. If you stood there during say a sand storm, you will be quickly berried in a matter of seconds. This is the same thing that happens every where else all be it not as fast. If you want more info on geology and how sediment works I think it would be best to go look online or read it up as they have more information then I do.

anime_being_god

well in th story of Noah, he brought on his ship, 2 animals of every kind, male and female to restart the process once the flood had died. So I dont think there would have been an extinction

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P.R. Princess

i take more metiphorically. like it says 6 days to me i think of it being say 6billion years. somthing like that.
and as for evolution i think of it as god put everything in place to happen. and then let it happen.

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Well think about it. Back then they had to use wind as a form of power for ships during this time. Wind power is a natural form of energy and is for the most part renewable and unlimited, but the problem is that its not very reliable, as in you can have a full days worth of strong steady wind and then be perfectly calm for several days, even weeks or months at the worst, leaving you stranded. And even if you did have a constant steady supply of wind power it would still be incredibly slow. If he were to get two animals of each kind that would mean he would have to travel around the world and go to every country on every continent in every environment imaginable to acquire said animals. Using wind power to go to what is now America would have taken two or three months. And once there would spend years if not the rest of his life gathering two of every animal from North America, Canada, Mexico, and South America, not to mention every island around there. And if he hasn’t died by now from injury, sickness, or old age, he would then have to travel to Asia, Australia, and every single island there. Then go to Japan, China, Vietnam, Korea, Russia, and so one and so forth. Sense the average life span back then was roughly around 45 years or so he would have died long before he could finish his work. Not to mention that in the bible god gave Noah only a limited amount of time. This is an impossible feet to pull off. Not to mention if you think about it, putting two of every animal on a single ship... Do you have any idea how huge that would be? The ship would have to be the size of say Japan or California. A ship that size would be so huge and heavy it would rip its self apart. No to mention complete and total global deforestation which after the flood would wipe out all plant life.

That sounds much more reasinable.