Cutting themselves - Page 2

Reese · Jul 12, 2006, 03:25 PM

Well heres my amateur response :
Some individuals inflict pain on themselves to distract their mind from the emotional scars.

I did at one point go through the same phase... not to the extreme degree as most others. But it was intially suppose to distract my mind from all those other emotional stress I was going through.

Is it satisfying? No it isn't... all it manages to do is enhance one's despair and prolong an individuals depression phase. Its a cheap way of avoiding proper treatment.

If I knew someone that abused thier body in that manner. I would offer my concerns and support. I honestly wouldn't know how I would react to that...

kedar · Jul 12, 2006, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Reese

Some individuals inflict pain on themselves to distract their mind from the emotional scars.

That's an agreeable statement! Personally, I feel that one will practice the art of cutting themselves, if one lacks a mental balance, and control of their mind.

Is it productive in the first place? Why would anyone want to cut themselves just for the purpose of seeing one's blood and distract their minds? Do meditation, yoga, punch a punching bag or something.

I see nothing "truly" beneficial in doing so, cutting yourselves, that is.

icewolf · Jul 12, 2006, 03:49 PM

cutting themselves not to kill will only get them attention..............i just cry myself to sleep XP

Satoko_Hyuuga · Jul 12, 2006, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Aya-kun

.. sorry for starting another lame discussion... Remove this if it is a must.

I'll make it short:

why do some people believe in hurting themselves physically when they are depress?

Does it help?

How do we understand them if they refuse to talk?

Can they be save?

Hello again Sheep! As for me, I used to do that SH*T because I was depressed. (But I stopped. :]) And no it does not help. It makes things worse. I thought the sight of blood would make me happy, just knowing that I can hurt myself for being so stupid or being here at all. And yes, I was very stupid.

And after I cut myself a lot, my CLOSEST cousin Sunshine noticed my scars and cuts and she bagan doing the same as me because her life was depressing. (Her parents, DIVORCE. ETC.) I feel so MAD for doing this, making my best friend as bad as I. I should be punished.

*Innerhell* · Jul 12, 2006, 04:02 PM

I used to cut myself. I would use my own fingers and dig into my arm. I have four scars on my left arm. I was a bit unstable and depressed in the past. Not as much nowadays. Suffering from usual forms of stress. I didn't really know how to express my feelings and emotions. I didn't know how to cope with my anger and my anxieties. I didn't have any outlet. The idea that physical pain cancels out the emotional made sense to me in those times of stress. I didn't know how to simply deal with it. So I resorted to cutting. Like people have said in earlier posts, the pain numbs the mind and it has desentisized me, to the point where everything goes numb and sometimes I can't feel a thing. I am just hollow and empty. Heh, it's a side effect to my personal treatment. My own way of dealing things. I never for once asked for anyone's help. I just kept to myself. I hid my wounds. I hid my scars. I never took any pride in what I did. I knew it was wrong, but it was one of the "only" ways for me to deal with my problem. I felt that I was going to snap, that I would soon hurt someone else or worse, kill someone. So, in my psychotic episodes, I came to the somewhat sane solution that hurting myself was better than hurting others. But I only succeeded in creating my own little shell. Hiding from the outside world. Accompanied by myself and the other fragments of my personality that make up my own little twisted conscience. Hurting myself, may it be cutting or bashing my head against a wall and/or floor, my own little escape from reality... only brought me spiraling down into my own instability. Maybe I should be medicated.

Simply put... Cutting is bad. Take it from me. Cutting. Bad.

That's the end of that stupid chapter of my life.

Good times.
[Ih]

*TaurusDemon23* · Jul 12, 2006, 04:45 PM

That's what ppl want............more meds. Somehow I think we humans got somethin' wrong here....

*Aya-kun* · Jul 12, 2006, 05:13 PM

Thank you all for posting in and sharing your point of view and experience.

So I take it that people cut themselves to either get attention or divert their emotional feelings to physical so that they may understand themselves better?

if it is for attention:
What can they get out of it? I know that most would do this for the sake of attention, but why is it that nobody cares still? Like it is so wrong to give a lil attention to them? What more? They tease and make him/her feel worst. I don't blame anyone who cuts themselves or attempt suicide. Society is such a crude.

As for diverting their emotions to physical pain..
Anyone wanna elaborate this or should I in my own words do this part? ^^

erosennin · Jul 12, 2006, 05:30 PM

As for attention, it's something they'll just have to grow out of. People, mostly teens, I would think, that do this need to find a different way to garner the self-worth they crave.

As for the trauma, depression end of thing, there is a term for it. It's called sublimation. It is the conversion of the internal to the external. In my experience, most people that sublimate cut themselves in places that are not visible under their clothes, like their legs, shoulders, etc. It is not a purely symbolic gesture, either. When you cut yourself deep, you trigger a pain response which triggers endorphines, your body's natural drugs. Over time, it can actually turn into an endorphine addiction.

So, with a deep cut, you not only have what you feel is a physical representation of your pain (which is healing), but you also have the chemical endorphine response, which makes you feel better.

Dasike · Jul 12, 2006, 05:44 PM

i seen my friends scars a few weeks ago.....she was trying to kill herself.....she couldnt handle the stress of life any more......her boyfriend now has stopped her. she'd get depressed and become a different person she'd try to cut infront of her friends and try to cut her wrists at home.....i talk to her alot..her boyfriend and myself are like her help she talks to him mostly but i help out. Its a horrible thing to do..some people do it to get attenion and others do it for other reasons the stress it cs on people around them is great.

Oldmagic · Jul 12, 2006, 05:44 PM

jeeze. you guys have a lot of issues to deal with. j/k.

When i was a kid when i had an intence emotional pain, i don't cut my self, i deal with them by botteling them up hopeing for them to go away and other times i cried alot. i use to feel this kind of shit alot when my parents tells me i'm useless or when my parents fight, and other such propoblems etc...

But the truth is, now i don't feel anything but annoyance and i just shrug the propoblems away. because i just don't care anymore. but when i have a great emotional problem i just think logically to analize the problems for the next five minutesor so to some how get to the root of the propoblems. some successful but other times....not so much.

cutting may distract you from pain but it's only temparory, kind of like drinking. I really don't have any experiance about cutting so i shouldn't say anything unless i insult someone.

Meji Imaru · Jul 12, 2006, 05:49 PM

It does feel like it relives alot of stress to me but, in my case I tend to punch the hardest thing around for my 'pain' rather then cut myself, I crushed my knuckle doing that the other day and before I knew it I was happy again >.> but, Im weird like that >.> ^_^

Jul 12, 2006, 03:25 PM	#12 (permalink)
Reese Diamond in the Rough Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "Enigma" Posts: 228 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Credits: 1,228	Re: Cutting themselves Well heres my amateur response : Some individuals inflict pain on themselves to distract their mind from the emotional scars. I did at one point go through the same phase... not to the extreme degree as most others. But it was intially suppose to distract my mind from all those other emotional stress I was going through. Is it satisfying? No it isn't... all it manages to do is enhance one's despair and prolong an individuals depression phase. Its a cheap way of avoiding proper treatment. If I knew someone that abused thier body in that manner. I would offer my concerns and support. I honestly wouldn't know how I would react to that... __________________
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icewolf Newbie Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: alone in a corner Posts: 23 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Credits: 110	Re: Cutting themselves cutting themselves not to kill will only get them attention..............i just cry myself to sleep XP __________________ (\__/) (='.'=) ('')_('') This is Bunny. I eat bunnies. I apologize to jaderabbit i dont eat bunnies nomore.
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Innerhell of the AMC Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: hanging out at Gaia's /amc/ as "[Ih]" Posts: 2,115 Thanks: 0 Thanked 17 Times in 17 Posts Credits: 11,644	Re: Cutting themselves I used to cut myself. I would use my own fingers and dig into my arm. I have four scars on my left arm. I was a bit unstable and depressed in the past. Not as much nowadays. Suffering from usual forms of stress. I didn't really know how to express my feelings and emotions. I didn't know how to cope with my anger and my anxieties. I didn't have any outlet. The idea that physical pain cancels out the emotional made sense to me in those times of stress. I didn't know how to simply deal with it. So I resorted to cutting. Like people have said in earlier posts, the pain numbs the mind and it has desentisized me, to the point where everything goes numb and sometimes I can't feel a thing. I am just hollow and empty. Heh, it's a side effect to my personal treatment. My own way of dealing things. I never for once asked for anyone's help. I just kept to myself. I hid my wounds. I hid my scars. I never took any pride in what I did. I knew it was wrong, but it was one of the "only" ways for me to deal with my problem. I felt that I was going to snap, that I would soon hurt someone else or worse, kill someone. So, in my psychotic episodes, I came to the somewhat sane solution that hurting myself was better than hurting others. But I only succeeded in creating my own little shell. Hiding from the outside world. Accompanied by myself and the other fragments of my personality that make up my own little twisted conscience. Hurting myself, may it be cutting or bashing my head against a wall and/or floor, my own little escape from reality... only brought me spiraling down into my own instability. Maybe I should be medicated. Simply put... Cutting is bad. Take it from me. Cutting. Bad. That's the end of that stupid chapter of my life. Good times. [Ih] __________________ Last edited by Innerhell; Jul 12, 2006 at 04:07 PM.
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TaurusDemon23 Lord Of The Weirdness Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Just swimming in the Ether.... Posts: 1,015 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts Credits: 3,800	Re: Cutting themselves That's what ppl want............more meds. Somehow I think we humans got somethin' wrong here....
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Aya-kun Stray Sheep Join Date: May 2006 Location: Malaysia Posts: 905 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post Credits: 7,163	Re: Cutting themselves Thank you all for posting in and sharing your point of view and experience. So I take it that people cut themselves to either get attention or divert their emotional feelings to physical so that they may understand themselves better? if it is for attention: What can they get out of it? I know that most would do this for the sake of attention, but why is it that nobody cares still? Like it is so wrong to give a lil attention to them? What more? They tease and make him/her feel worst. I don't blame anyone who cuts themselves or attempt suicide. Society is such a crude. As for diverting their emotions to physical pain.. Anyone wanna elaborate this or should I in my own words do this part? ^^ __________________ [center]+ Sheep Blogs at PaperDiaries +
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Jul 12, 2006, 05:30 PM	#19 (permalink)
erosennin Otaku Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 150 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Credits: 2,101	Re: Cutting themselves As for attention, it's something they'll just have to grow out of. People, mostly teens, I would think, that do this need to find a different way to garner the self-worth they crave. As for the trauma, depression end of thing, there is a term for it. It's called sublimation. It is the conversion of the internal to the external. In my experience, most people that sublimate cut themselves in places that are not visible under their clothes, like their legs, shoulders, etc. It is not a purely symbolic gesture, either. When you cut yourself deep, you trigger a pain response which triggers endorphines, your body's natural drugs. Over time, it can actually turn into an endorphine addiction. So, with a deep cut, you not only have what you feel is a physical representation of your pain (which is healing), but you also have the chemical endorphine response, which makes you feel better.
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Dasike Newbie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Ireland Posts: 88 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Credits: 810	Re: Cutting themselves i seen my friends scars a few weeks ago.....she was trying to kill herself.....she couldnt handle the stress of life any more......her boyfriend now has stopped her. she'd get depressed and become a different person she'd try to cut infront of her friends and try to cut her wrists at home.....i talk to her alot..her boyfriend and myself are like her help she talks to him mostly but i help out. Its a horrible thing to do..some people do it to get attenion and others do it for other reasons the stress it cs on people around them is great. __________________ Thanks to Aiora for my great siggy ^.^ Back from hell with the Ghosts
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Oldmagic Diamond in the Rough Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 214 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Credits: 236	Re: Cutting themselves jeeze. you guys have a lot of issues to deal with. j/k. When i was a kid when i had an intence emotional pain, i don't cut my self, i deal with them by botteling them up hopeing for them to go away and other times i cried alot. i use to feel this kind of shit alot when my parents tells me i'm useless or when my parents fight, and other such propoblems etc... But the truth is, now i don't feel anything but annoyance and i just shrug the propoblems away. because i just don't care anymore. but when i have a great emotional problem i just think logically to analize the problems for the next five minutesor so to some how get to the root of the propoblems. some successful but other times....not so much. cutting may distract you from pain but it's only temparory, kind of like drinking. I really don't have any experiance about cutting so i shouldn't say anything unless i insult someone.
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Jul 12, 2006, 05:49 PM	#22 (permalink)
Meji Imaru Diamond in the Rough Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Why do you want to know this.... Posts: 343 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Credits: 479	Re: Cutting themselves It does feel like it relives alot of stress to me but, in my case I tend to punch the hardest thing around for my 'pain' rather then cut myself, I crushed my knuckle doing that the other day and before I knew it I was happy again >.> but, Im weird like that >.> ^_^ __________________
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