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Old May 12, 2008, 07:19 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Re: Death Of The Universe?

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Here goes nothing.

Since the universe is expanding, as proven by the ever occurring 'Red Shift', which is a surprise since all matter stops gradually after being involved in an explosion, here is quite the contrary; the universe is spreading out faster and shows no signs of slowing down.
If this continues over a period of billions of years, then all the forces holding everything together will consequently weaken [such as gravity]. Therefore the matter would disintegrate [I think opposing the law of conservation of Matter?]; eventually everything ceases to function and exist. Then, time too will be destroyed.
In the end, there would be nothing.
That’s exactly what I was saying but more detailed, I was trying to simplify it for the sake of the people here. Any way the reason why the universe will continue to expand and eventually rip its self apart is because it’s speculated that its being fueled by a substance called dark mater. Now darkmater can not be seeing but its effects can. One of which is the acceleration of the universe it’s self and the way the universe its self is laid out. It holds and binds the universe together but at the same time will eventually cause the universe to grow so rapidly so fast that it will destroy everything. It’s a double edge sward. We need it for the existence of the universe but at the same time it will be the grim reaper. What happens next is any ones guess when there is nothing. But as said before there is an equal and opposite reaction which if there is life there is death but at the same time where there is death there is life. So another universe could very well pop back into existence again with another super element that could be formed only in these conditions and the whole process starts all over again. But if that’s the case it begs the question... How many times has the universe resurrected it's self?
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Old May 12, 2008, 07:26 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Re: Death Of The Universe?

The only thing I am passionately curious about is the immortality of God.
I am bringing religious for just this time.
I believe that there has to be a much higher power that controls the mighty and enigmatic universe. However, nothing lasts forever and neither does the universe. So if this is true, does that mean God will, too, cease to exist?
Then if that happens, the aftermath is anyone's guess.
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Old May 12, 2008, 07:51 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Re: Death Of The Universe?

I don't really think the universe is doing anything. I think new races will rise up but other than that I don't believe any of that crap.
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Old May 12, 2008, 08:08 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Re: Death Of The Universe?

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The only thing I am passionately curious about is the immortality of God.
I am bringing religious for just this time.
I believe that there has to be a much higher power that controls the mighty and enigmatic universe. However, nothing lasts forever and neither does the universe. So if this is true, does that mean God will, too, cease to exist?
Then if that happens, the aftermath is anyone's guess.
Why would he when God is supposed to have organized it in the first place? After all the material to make the universe had to come from somewhere.

To be more specific on what I think on the subject, current understanding of "dark matter" and "dark energy" is so young it is still taking it's first breath. I suspect as we learn more about them we will also learn that our understanding of their effects was just as infantile.

Now someone explain why just because a system ceases to be held by the universal gravitational core they would also cease to be held by a system gravitational core as well? Even if a system breaks down into particles these amoeboid clusters are supposed to form the planets anyway.
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Old May 12, 2008, 08:10 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Death Of The Universe?

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The only thing I am passionately curious about is the immortality of God.
I am bringing religious for just this time.
I believe that there has to be a much higher power that controls the mighty and enigmatic universe. However, nothing lasts forever and neither does the universe. So if this is true, does that mean God will, too, cease to exist?
Then if that happens, the aftermath is anyone's guess.
I to have thought of that but god could be like a phenix and resurrect him self, this way the life and death cycle is not broken as it’s the natural order of things. I believe the universe is god's ultimate creation, a living breathing machine that lives and dies but at the same time resurrects it's self and gives birth to life while it exists. Truly magnificent. Of cores that’s just a theory I have based off of what I know.
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Old May 12, 2008, 08:22 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Why would he when God is supposed to have organized it in the first place? After all the material to make the universe had to come from somewhere.

To be more specific on what I think on the subject, current understanding of "dark matter" and "dark energy" is so young it is still taking it's first breath. I suspect as we learn more about them we will also learn that our understanding of their effects was just as infantile.

Now someone explain why just because a system ceases to be held by the universal gravitational core they would also cease to be held by a system gravitational core as well? Even if a system breaks down into particles these amoeboid clusters are supposed to form the planets anyway.
True dark matter is a new substance that is theorizes and I have said that every time that I mentioned it and yes its a new possible fact that we are trying to understand, but how can you understand something with out asking questions about it? Even if they are wrong we are still learning something. Like I said I believe that god created everything for the existance of the universe. It's his ultamit creation that lives and dies and could very well ressurect it's self as well. A self sustaining machine for a lack of a better word that was created and works on a level that is truley astounding. And just because that the universe tares it's self apart, the matterials are still there, just in a different form. As to how the effects of the gravitaionel core break down would effect objects is rather simple but complicated to explain. Your best bet is doing resurch on your own on that one question Arrianna.

Why the hell did it make me double post when I went back to edit? Any way sorry about that. Something glitched.
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As to how the effects of the gravitaionel core break down would effect objects is rather simple but complicated to explain. Your best bet is doing resurch on your own on that one question Arrianna.
While I don't object to doing my own research why avoid discussing it since that is what the thread is about? Surely I won't be the only one with the same question.
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While I don't object to doing my own research why avoid discussing it since that is what the thread is about? Surely I won't be the only one with the same question.
I’m not avoiding it I just don’t know how to explain it best that would do it justice as there are things I am sure that I am forgetting and there for wouldn’t be much of help. I did research my self and eventually understood it but as to regurgitate it well that’s a different story as there are technical stuff that I am forgetting.
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Re: Death Of The Universe?

Even if the universe is torn apart and reduced to particles, maybe black holes would still exist. They would start sucking in all these particles for billions of years, until they sucked in too much and Bam another big bang. That is if time doesn't get destroyed like some say it would. Then again God could restart time, and get it going again.
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Neh, Black Holes would die eventually. As proven by Stephen Hawking black holes vapourise very slowly to nothingness. He showed this by closely studying the edges of the black hole, or the clouds you can say, which revolves around the black hole.
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Neh, Black Holes would die eventually. As proven by Stephen Hawking black holes vapourise very slowly to nothingness. He showed this by closely studying the edges of the black hole, or the clouds you can say, which revolves around the black hole.
Plus the only thing Black holes spit out is radiation. You could be thinking white holes whitch work in reverse. How ever no white holes have ever been seen before and we know they mite exist because physics and Einstines theory of relarivity alows them to exist, but no one knows for sure.
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