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    Quote Originally Posted by Chubz View Post
    But like I said, terrorist attacks are meant to put the population at unease. What is happening is that the terrorists will launch an attack, killing civilians. The group will then say they attacked because of America. The population (not wanting any more explosions) will then blame the explosion on the Americans, using the logic that if the Americans weren't there, then the terrorists wouldn't be setting off bombs. It's pretty much saying that the Americans FORCED the terrorists to set off bombs, which isn't true. Even if the military wasn't there, they would be setting off those bombs until they achieved their goal.
    Except it's back firing because more and more of the citizens there aren't buying it anymore and the reason there has been so many sucessful raids against the terrorists is because the citizens are turning them in to the military.

    ..and you're right, it's not true that they would stop. That's like a rapist telling you if you don't struggle it wouldn't happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barronmore View Post
    How's this:

    Terrorism= the calculated use of violence (or threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature; this is done through intimidation or coercion or instilling fear.
    Quote Originally Posted by Chubz View Post
    Well, there's the saying "One man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist," which is somewhat true.
    I agree with both of those, What I was going to add though is that terrorism could also be said as being the act of putting terror into people through whatever means, but is that taking the definition a little too literally?

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    but what about attacking america? were they trying to force us americans to start to disbelieve in our gov and switch to theirs? what was their goal in all those attacks?

    it is classified as being a terrorist act but the goal wasnt to overthrough the gov. for them to take over. but they do do it to prove their point and to reach other goals.


    terrorist acts are acts with the purpose of causing a psychological effect on the populationg but its not just to over through one gov. they sometimes have an even bigger goal in mind or just one smaller acheivement they want to accomplish. but its all to cause terror in order to acheive their goals.

    but is there more to it?
    alot of different organizations from the past used all kinds of psycological warfare that spread fear into populations just to acheive their goals. when we bombed japan we didnt just specifically target a military base and it was part a psychological attack on them. but because we were at a state of war does that change the fact that we wanted to inflict terror on the japanese gov. at the time in order to stop the fight?(it sounds like im breaking a taboo for speaking about this but it still counts. and i love my country with all my heart so dont think im a traitor)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barronmore View Post
    How's this:

    Terrorism= the calculated use of violence (or threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature; this is done through intimidation or coercion or instilling fear.

    Terrorist= one who uses terrorism.

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    The attack on America was an attempt to cripple the government. They attacked the Pentagon, the WTC, and were supposed to hit the White House.

    The WTC held the New York Stock Exchange, so by taking it out it they wanted to hurt the economy, and it was also a well known landmark. The Pentagon is the center of military information, and the White House is home to George Bush. All well known targets, and all have an important function in the society and government.

    The terrorists were trying to force America's hand into attacking them, so that damage dealt to the middle eastern countries would help fuel more radicals to join up. However, the government stood back and waited until everything had smoothed out before attacking, which was the proper thing to do. Not only did it help gain them support for invading Afghanistan, it also showed that the government was being thoughtful about its actions, and not going in guns-a-blazing (which is what the terrorists wanted). All this got screwed up though once America invaded Iraq, because it had nothing to do with September 11th, and no major countries supported the invasion.

    These terrorists don't want the US public to join their side. They hate the West, and see everyone who isn't arab as being an enemy. They want the West destroyed....period. These people are radicals to the nth degree, and to them, September 11th is a precursor for what they want to do. They kill white aid workers left-right-and center, simply because they are from the west.

    As for America bombing Japan in WWII, it was a calculated risk they took because it would have taken more time, and cost more lives had America continued island hopping, and marched on foot. The Japanese population had been told to fight the invaders, so they now were a threat of being combatants in the war. With all this combined together, the US figured it would be easier to nuke Japan into submission (even after the first bomb, Japan did not give up, which shows you the resolve of the government, who were risking everything).

    The difference between terrorism, and targeting civilians during wartime is that war is provoked. Terrorists kill at any given time, for no purpose other than their personal goals. War is a conflict between two countries, which is recognized by both sides. Generally the rules of war state that you can't kill civilians, but WWI and WWII were unlike anything the world had seen before, and war become a whole new game. It was a desperate time, with desperate measures taken. Due to the extreme nature of the wars, the countries had an obligation to end it anyway they could, even if it involved civilian casualties.

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    terrorism/terrorist is anyone that uses peoples fears/action to meet there demands. as for war killing innocents, thats wrong by default aka war crimes. killing innocent people is just as bad as terrorism because people see the lack of respect for life and start to fear that power, which falls under terrorism since you kill there civilians till they comply which i find cowardly.

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    These terrorists don't want the US public to join their side. They hate the West, and see everyone who isn't arab as being an enemy. They want the West destroyed....period. These people are radicals to the nth degree, and to them, September 11th is a precursor for what they want to do. They kill white aid workers left-right-and center, simply because they are from the west.
    That might not be entirely true. I've heard audio clips that have said that if we here in the west would just convert to Islam then everything would be fine. So we either convert or be destroyed.

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    terrorism is an act of violence or basically to scare people into falling like 9/11/2001 but instead of falling and running scared we came together and kicked some butt

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