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    Quote Originally Posted by macky_516 View Post
    but what about attacking america? were they trying to force us americans to start to disbelieve in our gov and switch to theirs? what was their goal in all those attacks?

    it is classified as being a terrorist act but the goal wasnt to overthrough the gov. for them to take over. but they do do it to prove their point and to reach other goals.
    You're missing the "attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature" It doesn't have to just be a government coup.


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    Well as far as I was trained (or brainwashed by the military) to believe, terrorist instill fear into the public by attacking their protection which is the military. They pretty much hate us and want us to change so we can be under their control through their religious beliefs. They call this a Jihad even though it really isn't but use that to cover up what they really want. Personally I think the are just upset about taking a backseat to America being so great and all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barronmore View Post
    That might not be entirely true. I've heard audio clips that have said that if we here in the west would just convert to Islam then everything would be fine. So we either convert or be destroyed.

    The only thing is (from what I've heard) is that you can't "convert" to Islam, you have to be born into Islamic faith, to be considered a real islamic. I'm not sure this is actually correct, it was just something I heard (I forget where I heard it from). Mind you, their version of faith compared to the popular version of the Islam faith are two different things. The majority of people who follow Islam aren't fanatics and radicals. These guys pervert the religion so they can help fuel their own greed. Afghanistan was one of the most liberal arab countries before the Taliban took over, and they then imposed their 'version' of religious doctrine on the country, banning women from working and going to school, and killing people who did not have their beards grown a certain length, etc. So when they say 'join Islam,' they don't really mean joining the proper faith.

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    You can convert to Islam. I know a lot of people who have in the U.S. My Muslim friends tried to get me to convert before. I have read news articles of people converting and becoming terrorist. But there is a difference between those who are born into it and those who convert. I'm not sure of what that is but I can find out.

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    Terrorism is the systematic use, or threatened use, of violence to intimidate a population or government and thereby effect political, religious or ideological change.[1][2] Acts of terrorism are not intended to merely victimize or eliminate those who are killed, injured or taken hostage but rather to intimidate and influence the societies to which they belong.

    Modern terrorism has come to be defined in part by the influential power of the mass media that terrorists co-opt in their efforts to amplify and broadcast feelings of intense fear and anger. As a type of unconventional warfare, terrorism is designed to weaken or supplant existing political landscapes through capitulation, acquiescence, or radicalization as opposed to subversion or direct military action.

    "Terrorist attacks" are usually characterized as "indiscriminate", "targeting of civilians" or executed "with disregard for human life". The term "terrorism" is often used to assert that the political violence of an enemy is immoral, wanton and unjustified. According to the most common definition of terrorism typically used by states, academics, counter-terrorism experts and non-governmental organizations, "terrorists" are actors who don't belong to any recognized armed forces or who don't adhere to the laws of war and who are, therefore, regarded as "rogue actors".

    Those who are accused of being "terrorists" rarely identify themselves as such and, instead, typically use terms that refer to their ideological or ethnic struggle, such as: separatist, freedom fighter, liberator, revolutionary, vigilante, militant, paramilitary, guerrilla, rebel, jihadi or mujaheddin, or fedayeen or any one of similar-meaning words in a number of languages.

    Terrorism has been used by a broad array of organizations to further their objectives. They include both right-wing and left-wing political parties, nationalistic and religious groups, revolutionaries and ruling governments.

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    Re: defining terrorism

    Well first i wanna start off by stating that terrorists are always categorized or identified by the stronger government, society, or just a very influential media. Therefore, I believe that the word terrorism today is used by governments of both west and eastern origin as an excuse in order to engage in war. The definition of the word terrorism provided in this forum is adequate but you must also think about the generation a terrorist exists in, his motives, his enemies, study his enemies and their motives as well, create an analysis and verify how guilty both parties are. America has lost its faith in its methods of dealing justice around the world ever since Vietnam and I believe all Americans and everyone in the world can agree on that.

    Referring to the WWII Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombing, I believe that it was not necessary for America to exterminate 120,000 civilians in order to prevail. The Soviet Union was at the Japanese doorstep getting ready to invade as much as America was, the only problem America had was that the USSR had already taken out Hitler and conquered Berlin and Belgium ending the war in Europe, destroying the Nazi regime. If Russia managed to take out Japan as well, which was only a matter of time, the victory would be Russia's to take and celebrate and that was something America did not want. America's bombing was a hastened act in order to achieve victory before Russia and make its mark in history.

    Another topic i would like to address is the Israeli/Arab conflict in the Middle East. First of all i would like to clarify that i am not here to agitate anyone but only want to form a debate in order to educate myself further as well as engage in an interesting conversation. I for one, am against the Israeli occupation of Palestine, which in my opinion, represents the very form of aggression, terrorism, immorality, and corruption. People around the world are against America's foreign political affairs because of its support for Israel. All 350 million Arabs in the Middle East despise the Zionist Regime and claim it to be the most extreme form of evil a human being can express in this world (notice how i labeled Israel as a Zionist regime and not a legitimate Jewish movement). The only thing keeping the Arabs contained is the corrupt dictators and kings who were appointed by the British Empire after WWII and are being backed up, protected, funded, and supported politically by the American government. So when you have a world power that claims to be the ally of freedom, justice, and all that is good in this world support the worst, most corrupt, most evil agitators and help them stay in leadership positions, your bound to have people terrorize that country. 1.5 million Iraqi's died so far in the Iraqi war which has lasted for what? a few years? yet Saddam killed 50,000 civilians total in a time span of 30 years but he is the terrorist, he is the aggression and the spurt of evil. Keep in mind that it was Britain, France, and America that appointed Saddam in Iraq, financed his military and political procedures, and supported his fight against the democratic, people appointed government of Iran.

    Iran, which use to be the most respected ally of the western countries, was the worst country in the Middle East in terms of its terrorism acts on its people, inflicting fear into the hears of all Iranians to force submission and threaten all Arabian countries not to engage in a war with Israel. Yet after the people of Iran fought desperately to take down this corrupt leadership and appoint a people representative as president, this man becomes the source of evil in the eyes of American media and becomes a threat to all that is peaceful in this world and must be dealt with. In other words, America does not want the Middle Eastern countries to be ruled by people for the people because it is against American international interests. Keep in mind that even though this is from a thorough study Ive done on the internet, it still represents my point of view of the world.

    Hosni Embarak, president of Egypt, is supported and protected by the American government, heck even Condoleezza Rice compliments him on hearings and proclaim the American Egyptian relationship to be a strong, peaceful, positive relationship. 80 Million Egyptians would beg to differ. This man as openly rigged elections, imprisoned any candidate that posed a threat, terrorized his people in order to force his law and his ideals and yet he is supported by the American government. Why would America support a dictator like this man? because he cares about American interests in Egypt more than Egyptian interests. King Hussein on another note, the former king of Jordan, was another dictator who was appointed by the British Empire and was supported by the American government, the French government, and the British government. King Abdulla II, current leader of Jordan, is supported by the western governments yet he is a corrupt leader that only thinks about his personal interests and people also have reason to believe that he can be a western agent just like his father was. Yes, king Hussein turned out to be a British undercover agent appointed king by the British Empire in order to enforce British policies and rules. By the way, these are facts released by the British government not so long ago.

    King Farouk, a man who was supported by the western governments, was a dictator that terrorized his people and killed the Egyptian people if he had to in order to make his point. When he was overthrown by the Egyptian republican movement, and a new president elected by the people came forth, Gamal Abdul Nasser, that man was seen as a terrorists to the western world, a danger to the peace of the world and an imperialist, yet he was against all imperialism and he was a socialist reformer and believed in the word of the people, his goal in life was to unite the Arabs under one banner in a democratic government. in fact, the former Arabian Republic loved that man so much that when he stepped out of power in 1967 after the 6 day war, the people refused to appoint any other man. All 350 million Arabs today believe that he was the greatest Arab leader during the 20th century yet he was proclaimed to be a terrorist and a dictator by the western countries...I hope my point is clear and concise.

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    Re: defining terrorism

    ^ thats a damn post man you pretty much summed it up.

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    Re: defining terrorism

    A terrorist is anyone who causes fear in another, it doesnt require grand scale or bombs, it can be as lowly as a bully scaring a kid and a police officer pulling out a nightstick in front of someone to someone running through a crowd with a chainsaw

    so Terrorism is the act of inflicting the emotional state called Fear

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