Demons - Page 2

sachiko ueto · May 16, 2006, 09:28 PM

well, basically they are fictional... no one really has proven their existence... more or less a product of the bizarre human imagination...

Drkduality · May 16, 2006, 09:55 PM

Well it depends on the culture. Demons are dipicted more evil in wester cultures due to christian influnces while in more eastern cultures there are good and bad ones. This pattern is seen with other aspects as well such as dragons. One cannot really argue one is right and one is wong because they are too different. Western demons are fallen angels cast down to earth my Micheal the archangel and god, while eastern demons are more of a supernatural race of beings. I personally know more about the western type. I believe in the western type because i'm christian but i can't fairly rule out the other.

p.s. feel free to correct me if i'm wrong. I think thats how it is but i'm not 100% sure. =P

JefferyXie · May 17, 2006, 01:21 AM

Interesting.I m not sure if they exist or r a figment of our imagination.But they seem real

Spymonk · May 17, 2006, 03:40 AM

Demons......
I am a God fearing man. I must tell u that according to the Bible, and the things i have been witnessed is realy scary stuff. Also i am rarely afraid of anything a eight foot man is, just a human and that is it.
Nothing can be more scary than something u can't see and i am sure that they have the abilities most ppl dream of. Which include having supernatural power insight knowledge,
and all those things we don't.
There is a positive thing for us. Even if you believe or don't they have to have some kind of gateway that they can use to enter the human and take over what ever he has to offer.[Body]

You must remember they don't have any abilities like we do. They cannot eat or sleep or shower or have touch. These abilitys is what makes them envious of us and the fact that we are prone to serve God, and that is it really not alot of technicalities involved so don't worry it is the basic things we can do they cant that makes them hate us so much.Now u gonna say but they don't hate us they wanna help us do this and that Yes that is their way of deceiving the human to befriend him and eventually lure him into the web so they can have use of his body.
This is the one way all Spirits/Demons work to deceive us because why we are very gullable when someone says i can do this and that and they say show us when he does they are in awe about the person and that is why they also say things like I also want then the devil says no problem i wil make u like this and like that for a small price of your soul.
The biggest problem that we as humans don't have a manual for is is the gateways there is books about it but then again we don't read it because we are just to clever are we not.That is a pretty long discussion because their is things in their u will not believe.

LOL all for now....

Archy · May 17, 2006, 03:42 AM

yeah i belive they exist but demons aren't entites that where there since the begining of time they are fallen angels and ppl who live an evil life

Spymonk · May 17, 2006, 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Archy

and ppl who live an evil life

Can u maybe refrase that pls they are not ppl according to the bible so yeah refrase pls so we know what u mean....

Archy · May 17, 2006, 04:01 AM

it means that all the ppl that where/are evil while they are alive they end up as demons in hell after they die

Spymonk · May 17, 2006, 04:19 AM

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"Possessed"?
Rom 6:12-13 (Phi) Do not, then, allow sin to establish any power over your mortal bodies in making you give way to your lusts. Nor hand over your bodily parts to be, as it were, weapons of evil for the devil's purposes. But, like men rescued from certain death, put yourselves in God's hands as weapons of good for his own purposes.

In Scripture, the idea of possession is used in a wider sense than just demon possession. Possession has to do with captivity, mastery, or obedience. We are spoken of as being "possessed" by God if we obey Him, and "possessed" by the powers of darkness if we sin. Advanced cases of being "taken captive" by Satan result in involuntary behavior termed "possession". But this kind of "possession" is often entered into gradually and willfully...
Rom 6:16 (Phi) You "belong" to the power you choose to obey... (Ps 106:39)

For Christians, our souls are "sealed" until the day of our complete redemption, but our bodies can be commandeered by Satan, taken captive to do his will in a particular moment. To be sure, it is not the same for us as it is with the unregenerate, for we have a choice in the matter. We have the experiential option to hand our bodies over (Rom 6:12-22)--like chess pieces--to either God or Satan in the great cosmic battle.
Rom 6:16 (NEB) ... if you put yourselves at the disposal of a master, to obey him, you are slaves of the master whom you obey; and this is true whether you serve sin, with death as its result; or obedience, with righteousness as its result.

2 Pet 2:19 (Jer) ... if anyone lets himself be dominated by anything, he is a slave to it...

Taht is why the Lord gaves us these things to protect ourselfs against the Devil..

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Ephesians 6

The Armor of God

11Put on the full armor of God so that you can take your stand against the devil's schemes. 12For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. 13Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. 14Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, 15and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. 16In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. 17Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. 18And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the saints.

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Originally Posted by Archy

it means that all the ppl that where/are evil while they are alive they end up as demons in hell after they die

I am sorry buddy but i do not agree it never in the bible refers to us becoming anything if good and bad and has died so what u say it that but i think we should leave the speculating for someone else....just follow what the bible teaches us...and by the way in the end the Bible says we will know everything ...

Archy · May 17, 2006, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Spymonk

just follow what the bible teaches us

just follow ..... i am sorry i do believe in god and i am a christein but i must think for myself aswell

i will never follow something blindly
i follow my mind and my heart nothing more

Spymonk · May 17, 2006, 04:59 AM

Ok, this is problem that we as humans have. We think we know everything and wanna do what we think and feel and say what we think. When it comes to religion it is different. The Lord never said stop thinking and feeling, but when it comes to things he tells us to do, why do u wanna think about it. Dont u think He would lead u on the path most benefit to u as his Child.

Think about that.

bloodymoonreaper · May 17, 2006, 07:24 AM

It is sad to say that demons do exist , and in many forms. Like those inside you and the more realistic fallen angels who followed the Devil. I guess in a way you can say that they do follow you because they try to stray you away from God's path or something like that. And sometimes they try to scare you and stuff like that.

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Drkduality Diamond in the Rough Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: in the darkest corners of my mind Posts: 134 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Credits: 262	Re: Demons Well it depends on the culture. Demons are dipicted more evil in wester cultures due to christian influnces while in more eastern cultures there are good and bad ones. This pattern is seen with other aspects as well such as dragons. One cannot really argue one is right and one is wong because they are too different. Western demons are fallen angels cast down to earth my Micheal the archangel and god, while eastern demons are more of a supernatural race of beings. I personally know more about the western type. I believe in the western type because i'm christian but i can't fairly rule out the other. p.s. feel free to correct me if i'm wrong. I think thats how it is but i'm not 100% sure. =P
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Spymonk Diamond in the Rough Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: I live in South Africa and i was born in Pretoria. Posts: 463 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Credits: 225	Re: Demons Demons...... I am a God fearing man. I must tell u that according to the Bible, and the things i have been witnessed is realy scary stuff. Also i am rarely afraid of anything a eight foot man is, just a human and that is it. Nothing can be more scary than something u can't see and i am sure that they have the abilities most ppl dream of. Which include having supernatural power insight knowledge, and all those things we don't. There is a positive thing for us. Even if you believe or don't they have to have some kind of gateway that they can use to enter the human and take over what ever he has to offer.[Body] You must remember they don't have any abilities like we do. They cannot eat or sleep or shower or have touch. These abilitys is what makes them envious of us and the fact that we are prone to serve God, and that is it really not alot of technicalities involved so don't worry it is the basic things we can do they cant that makes them hate us so much.Now u gonna say but they don't hate us they wanna help us do this and that Yes that is their way of deceiving the human to befriend him and eventually lure him into the web so they can have use of his body. This is the one way all Spirits/Demons work to deceive us because why we are very gullable when someone says i can do this and that and they say show us when he does they are in awe about the person and that is why they also say things like I also want then the devil says no problem i wil make u like this and like that for a small price of your soul. The biggest problem that we as humans don't have a manual for is is the gateways there is books about it but then again we don't read it because we are just to clever are we not.That is a pretty long discussion because their is things in their u will not believe. LOL all for now.... Last edited by Miroku4444; May 17, 2006 at 02:12 PM.
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Archy Newbie Join Date: May 2006 Location: my fantasy Posts: 84 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Credits: 110	Re: Demons it means that all the ppl that where/are evil while they are alive they end up as demons in hell after they die __________________ I never know just why you run so far away...far away from me
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Spymonk Diamond in the Rough Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: I live in South Africa and i was born in Pretoria. Posts: 463 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Credits: 225	Re: Demons Ok, this is problem that we as humans have. We think we know everything and wanna do what we think and feel and say what we think. When it comes to religion it is different. The Lord never said stop thinking and feeling, but when it comes to things he tells us to do, why do u wanna think about it. Dont u think He would lead u on the path most benefit to u as his Child. Think about that. Last edited by Miroku4444; May 17, 2006 at 02:18 PM.
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bloodymoonreaper Diamond in the Rough Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: wherever they will take me in Posts: 150 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Credits: 110	Re: Demons It is sad to say that demons do exist , and in many forms. Like those inside you and the more realistic fallen angels who followed the Devil. I guess in a way you can say that they do follow you because they try to stray you away from God's path or something like that. And sometimes they try to scare you and stuff like that. __________________ Bloodymoonreaper
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