Discipline - Page 3

overload · Sep 03, 2007, 03:40 AM

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When I was a child, I did not disobey my parents because they were firm but loving. I was spanked but never beaten. I was grounded but never neglected.

Many ppl will agree with this, myself included. we were never beaten to such degrees as not being able to stand or anything like that. but you did get the hiding of you life if you were naughty.

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How, then, do you think parents should discipline their children?

well this is easy to answer, just bring back the ability to give your child a hiding when they deserve it...
Goverments around the globe have said that you may not hit you child and to this I say C**p, please if you were not hit as a child then you would not have being here today, now would you? how many times are children put in a corner for a time out? when this is done what happens, the child is back to being a pain in the a**.
Look all I am saying is this, teach them the value of discipline and the chlid will take it down the family tree.

*atomik_sprout* · Sep 04, 2007, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by lebasiara

The dicipline now a days has lost its meaning... plus the modern phychology is saying that parents that dicipline their children (the old fashion way) are causing "traumas" to those kids... the reality though is other... by not applying dicipline the kids are growing up without rules... and added to that the kids are listening outside that the parents are to be "lovely and patience"... and that they should be able to "be themselves" (even if being themselves includes to yell at their parents)... *sarcasm* Oh excuse me... they are not yelling at their parents... they are "expressing themselves their way".... I am pretty sure you all have heard that one...

Parents should recover their authorithy... they have no authorithy now a days... if they want their kids to be social ppl and not criminals...
Kids are learning at home that there is "no authorithy" or that the authorithy means nothing... so breaking the law it is not that bad then... see my point? Parents that do not dicipline in early ages are training criminals for the future...

My parents diciplined me the old fashion way... and I have no traumas that I know of... however I do have values and respect for others... specially if those others have some sort of authorithy....

That's what I'm talkin' 'bout! ^_^

Parents these days don't discipline thier kids enough--hell, at all!! I used to work in a school. And a vast majorotiy of those children thought they could speak to grown-ups any ol' way they wanted to. I know a kid who thinks he's grown--he's like nine years old mind you--and talks to adults like he's the authority figure! That's like one of my pet peevs is a rude, disrespectful and blatantly mean child.

I was at CVS pharmacy yesterday with a friend of mine and we were waiting in line behind this woman and her three kids (OMG, this is nuts!) and her youngest kid was like my son's age. He's chuckin' batteries at me and throwin' stuff at my friend and his siblings. When I first noticed it, the batteries hit my leg and I looked at the boy and he's just laughin' it up. I said, "Did that boy just throw friggin' batteries at me?" All his mom did was say, "that's not funny!" or, "Quit bein' bad!". If that was me at that age, my mom woulda wrecked me right in the damn store! No ifs, ands or buts about it.

DISCIPLINE YOUR CHILDREN!!! And don't have kids if you're young! Young people are the worst at raising kids. If you're in your twenties, go for it; but babies havin' babies needs to stop! It's killing our communities by populating it with undisciplined children or offspring of bad parents. I say again: DISCIPLINE YOUR KIDS! Do something!! But don't do nothing at all!! Smack the hand, say no, tell them what they're doin' is wrong and tell them why, make them know you're the alpha and always will be! That's what parents do: They put the fear of the gods in to thier children. To this very day, I won't walk up to my dad or mom and start trouble with them, and I'm a grown ass man! That's parenting! Raising your kid to a model citizen and to respect your elders! That's what matters. Without that, you can just not even bother putting them in school or hoping they'll want to learn anything, because you haven't instilled that in them.

nightboyz · Sep 10, 2007, 12:14 PM

Im glad I found this first note I haven't read every post so some stop me it I point out something thats been said.

I my self work in target, in elctroics, after schools been let out and I just have to say ~clear thoat~ I HATE KIIDDDDSSS!!!!! That felt good.
These kids run alot scream alot cry/wine alot pout and iv work there for almost three years so iv seen alot.
Iv seen kid do worse damage than katrina and rita combind.
Iv seen a mom tell her daughter "oh shut up your being stupid!" and yes she was loud about it.
I could go on and on about thing iv seen but I woulden't slove anything.
The problem is not just the kids but the parents that try to trick there kid tat there going to get that toy and abandon it some where in the store when the kid not looking or when they get to the check out.
What happened to the im an ass and you'll lissen to me weather you like it or not.
Im 21 years old and I was raised by a hard ass hard working texan and mason.
Im tell you parents become like my dad and you kid will respect you till the day they die.

My best friend would tell off his own parents and even call his father a dirty old man even thou hes ex miltary and disobay his mother but when hes around my dad its YES SER NO SER Im not kidding.
Another one of my friends would have sex with his girlfriend in his room when his parents where on there way home then she would even spend the nightand he cursed at and in front of his dad who is also ex miltary. At the end of high school his parents moved back to west texas so he stayed at my house so he could finsh school here. Every day was YES SER NO SER and CAN I HELP LIFT THE HEAVY FRIGE INTO THE HOUSE! And still to this day thats how they have been.
Now think it thats how they ack around him how do you think I ack around every one I meet.
Parents you want respect from your kids do one of two things, One: Go texan style on you kid and have them dig a trinch when they smart off. Or two:Send them to my dad for a week or two, hes got plenty of back breaking work to do, cuz in texas it all heat out here and little shade.
That will put some respect in that head of theres and CPS can't do a thing.

overload · Sep 11, 2007, 01:20 AM

I agree with Nightboyz,
Ny dad was just as tough to me, I would have to help with everything, even when I really didn't feel like it. He would make me get up and help.
but the good thing about that is you learn to respect, and get respect back.
hey if you are disrespectful to others, they don't look at you but they look at your parents. when they do that, it is a case of *how bad must this person's parents be?* look what I am saying is that they look at your parents as not being able to teach you values, and just how does it make them feel as parents?
We all want the best for the children that we have or will have in the future.
but to do that we must take discipline to the measures that our parents took us.

!Jamie5192 · Sep 11, 2007, 06:23 AM

Kids NEED to be disciplined and it's not the okay your grounded to the yard for a week or whatever. I could and do understand grounding for like lets say... hanging out with your friends for hours on end and not letting your parents know at least where you are.

When I was a lil girl (talking 2 or 3) I was at that no stage... and my mom back handed me on my mouth every time i said it to her. It wasn't hard but hard enough to let you know you just got into trouble. That and she would whip around from whatever she was doing and give me that look... the one of "what did you just say to me" and say don't say no to me. I learned pretty quickly not to say no. Then when i was about 8 or 9 I would copy every thing my dad said and my dad cussed a lot. that lasted until i was... 10 or 11 and the only reason it stopped then was because my mom started spanking me every time i said a sentence after him with one in it. ... well I'll write more later...

*Lasura* · Sep 11, 2007, 08:29 AM

Shure parents should discipline their children!!! I can't stand looking at children that use their parents- start kicking and screaming and quickly get what they want- they will grow up really arrogant and with no idea how to get to something in their lifes but with kicking and screaming, runnin to their mummies... It's just BAD!

I'm sure I will be strict just as my parents have always been to me... I still remember how bad it was but the thing is- I feel I've grown up to be quite ok a person... and I want my children to think that one day too...

As well as parents should watch out for their childs so they just wouldn't get into trouble, drugs, drinking and other stuff... children really doesn't know what's better for them sometimes...

So, shortly, Yes, parent's should discipline their children...
Lets not use violence of any kind, but just be streact- shout at them sometimes, say no to some of their wishes and so on.

Guardiandemonhate · Sep 11, 2007, 08:40 PM

a lot of parents dont know how to say no to their children which is retarded.

they're just setting their children up for failure if that's the case

*anime_being_god* · Sep 14, 2007, 10:23 AM

i dont think disicipline should be physical, but mental so that the kid remembers what will happen if his actions are carried out. like taking away everything he or she likes to do

nightboyz · Sep 17, 2007, 11:51 AM

Mental you say.... I full agree but ofcorse Its got to be in check.
Going mental style was a specialty of my dads (and still is).
What he would do is get me in a stat that when I messed up that I would get mad about it myself (like kicking my self in the but).
He still pulls it off today with me and his coworkers.
What this dose is if hes mad and im mad (about the topic) Ill work extra hard on fixing the problem (if it can be).
Now if you can pull this off with your kids you will become a master of self-disciplinefor the child.

*anime_being_god* · Sep 18, 2007, 09:48 AM

well on my side of the view, taking away things i like to do, like go out with friends, watch tv, get on the computer etc. that kind of stuff gets me

nightboyz · Sep 18, 2007, 10:44 PM

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well on my side of the view, taking away things i like to do, like go out with friends, watch tv, get on the computer etc. that kind of stuff gets me

That may work to show that your parents know you did something worng but to me thats not enof.
To me that dosen't show that they mean it.
Most of the kids I see at work have that leval of "discipline" (if thats what they call it) just suck it up (while in-raged) and do it again later.
Heck to me geting pops in school dosen't do the job.
You know thats all thats going to happen, and if you cry enof at you mommy (who was too chickin to do it) then she mite sue the school for harsh punishment.

Back breaking work is the way to go.
If its morial make them do things they don't like to do witch can rang for alot of things.
All im saying is that kids these days can get away with anything all because there parents read thoughs "parenting" book that teach friendship with there child not keeping them in line.
The words "go old school on them" is what needs to be done on kids today and that not a recomendation....parents.

Sep 10, 2007, 12:14 PM	#25 (permalink)
nightboyz Diamond in the Rough Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Where sence means nothing... Posts: 225 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Credits: 873	Re: Discipline Im glad I found this first note I haven't read every post so some stop me it I point out something thats been said. I my self work in target, in elctroics, after schools been let out and I just have to say ~clear thoat~ I HATE KIIDDDDSSS!!!!! That felt good. These kids run alot scream alot cry/wine alot pout and iv work there for almost three years so iv seen alot. Iv seen kid do worse damage than katrina and rita combind. Iv seen a mom tell her daughter "oh shut up your being stupid!" and yes she was loud about it. I could go on and on about thing iv seen but I woulden't slove anything. The problem is not just the kids but the parents that try to trick there kid tat there going to get that toy and abandon it some where in the store when the kid not looking or when they get to the check out. What happened to the im an ass and you'll lissen to me weather you like it or not. Im 21 years old and I was raised by a hard ass hard working texan and mason. Im tell you parents become like my dad and you kid will respect you till the day they die. My best friend would tell off his own parents and even call his father a dirty old man even thou hes ex miltary and disobay his mother but when hes around my dad its YES SER NO SER Im not kidding. Another one of my friends would have sex with his girlfriend in his room when his parents where on there way home then she would even spend the nightand he cursed at and in front of his dad who is also ex miltary. At the end of high school his parents moved back to west texas so he stayed at my house so he could finsh school here. Every day was YES SER NO SER and CAN I HELP LIFT THE HEAVY FRIGE INTO THE HOUSE! And still to this day thats how they have been. Now think it thats how they ack around him how do you think I ack around every one I meet. Parents you want respect from your kids do one of two things, One: Go texan style on you kid and have them dig a trinch when they smart off. Or two:Send them to my dad for a week or two, hes got plenty of back breaking work to do, cuz in texas it all heat out here and little shade. That will put some respect in that head of theres and CPS can't do a thing. __________________ I Think... Therefore You Are...
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overload Diamond in the Rough Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: On the farside of the Moon. Posts: 489 Thanks: 8 Thanked 16 Times in 15 Posts Credits: 13,074	Re: Discipline I agree with Nightboyz, Ny dad was just as tough to me, I would have to help with everything, even when I really didn't feel like it. He would make me get up and help. but the good thing about that is you learn to respect, and get respect back. hey if you are disrespectful to others, they don't look at you but they look at your parents. when they do that, it is a case of how bad must this person's parents be? look what I am saying is that they look at your parents as not being able to teach you values, and just how does it make them feel as parents? We all want the best for the children that we have or will have in the future. but to do that we must take discipline to the measures that our parents took us.
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!Jamie5192 Banned Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 377 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Credits: -184	Re: Discipline Kids NEED to be disciplined and it's not the okay your grounded to the yard for a week or whatever. I could and do understand grounding for like lets say... hanging out with your friends for hours on end and not letting your parents know at least where you are. When I was a lil girl (talking 2 or 3) I was at that no stage... and my mom back handed me on my mouth every time i said it to her. It wasn't hard but hard enough to let you know you just got into trouble. That and she would whip around from whatever she was doing and give me that look... the one of "what did you just say to me" and say don't say no to me. I learned pretty quickly not to say no. Then when i was about 8 or 9 I would copy every thing my dad said and my dad cussed a lot. that lasted until i was... 10 or 11 and the only reason it stopped then was because my mom started spanking me every time i said a sentence after him with one in it. ... well I'll write more later...
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Lasura Angelic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: In a Demon's Arms Posts: 1,872 Thanks: 56 Thanked 35 Times in 32 Posts Credits: 49,619	Re: Discipline Shure parents should discipline their children!!! I can't stand looking at children that use their parents- start kicking and screaming and quickly get what they want- they will grow up really arrogant and with no idea how to get to something in their lifes but with kicking and screaming, runnin to their mummies... It's just BAD! I'm sure I will be strict just as my parents have always been to me... I still remember how bad it was but the thing is- I feel I've grown up to be quite ok a person... and I want my children to think that one day too... As well as parents should watch out for their childs so they just wouldn't get into trouble, drugs, drinking and other stuff... children really doesn't know what's better for them sometimes... So, shortly, Yes, parent's should discipline their children... Lets not use violence of any kind, but just be streact- shout at them sometimes, say no to some of their wishes and so on. __________________ My recommended fanfic: "Dreamer" by Scourge
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Guardiandemonhate Newbie Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: everywhere Posts: 25 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Credits: 160	Re: Discipline a lot of parents dont know how to say no to their children which is retarded. they're just setting their children up for failure if that's the case __________________ time dies with me
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anime_being_god AO Rebel Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,774 Thanks: 23 Thanked 39 Times in 32 Posts Credits: 8,901	Re: Discipline i dont think disicipline should be physical, but mental so that the kid remembers what will happen if his actions are carried out. like taking away everything he or she likes to do __________________
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nightboyz Diamond in the Rough Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Where sence means nothing... Posts: 225 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Credits: 873	Re: Discipline Mental you say.... I full agree but ofcorse Its got to be in check. Going mental style was a specialty of my dads (and still is). What he would do is get me in a stat that when I messed up that I would get mad about it myself (like kicking my self in the but). He still pulls it off today with me and his coworkers. What this dose is if hes mad and im mad (about the topic) Ill work extra hard on fixing the problem (if it can be). Now if you can pull this off with your kids you will become a master of self-disciplinefor the child. __________________ I Think... Therefore You Are...
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anime_being_god AO Rebel Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,774 Thanks: 23 Thanked 39 Times in 32 Posts Credits: 8,901	Re: Discipline well on my side of the view, taking away things i like to do, like go out with friends, watch tv, get on the computer etc. that kind of stuff gets me __________________
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