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Old Apr 24, 2007, 08:22 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Re: Is divorce the solution or the problem?

Today's society / cuture tells us to move on and get tough in order to survive in this world, and doesn't really gives us the morals, even if they do, this century is a bad time, because the morals are loosing their value. People are more focused on their jobs and career. No love, nothing.
Hell, it's more of a problem rather than to be a solution.
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Old Apr 24, 2007, 10:14 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Re: Is divorse the solution or the problem?

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My viewpoints do not contradict each other. They are just different circumstances in which what I believe is a right sitaution for a couple to get a divorce. I stand on divorce being the problem for a marriage, UNLESS it is hurting one or both persons of the commitment.
Sorry, if you don't post it that way, it doesn't come out that way.

So when you say divorce is a problem UNLESS it is hurting one or both persons of the commitment, what is hurting suppose to mean? Does it have to be physical, mental, both; or is it suppose to be the child involved?(if there is one).

If you wake up one morning and suddenly can't stand the sight of your husband/wife, would that make a difference? What if someone is depressed and one day runs out of the house and heads to a bar and has an affair. Someone has got to be pissed about that situation.

You mentioned in your last post that people should just huff it out and quit crying. Just work through it. I thought the whole reason for getting a divorce was to remove the pain and neglect in the relationship.

What are the incorrect reasons for getting a divorce, if the very reasons(you say are reasonably ok)used for getting a divorce are wrong?

Hand it over to you.
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Old Apr 24, 2007, 10:43 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Re: Is divorce the solution or the problem?

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I don't believe in divorce. If people really don't think they and really stand by their lover no matter what then why get married. For me, Marriage is about working out problems with your partner and standing by them no matter what. Divorce should only be a very last resort or when one of the persons is being abused by the one they love if they are married.

These days, people are not really thinking about what marriage actually is and I know we can't stop that as marriage is every where.
What if your husband has a alcohol or drug addiction and refuses to quit?

P.S> Tbaism I'm undecided.
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Old Apr 24, 2007, 10:52 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Re: Is divorce the solution or the problem?

no not the divorce is a solution ...you know why because if there are childern they will be lost ...thats ture it's solution for the mom and dad but not solution for the childern.....
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Old Apr 24, 2007, 10:54 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Is divorce the solution or the problem?

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What if your husband has a alcohol or drug addiction and refuses to quit?

P.S> Tbaism I'm undecided.
Oh ok lol. Been racking my brain trying to figure out if your messages are really against or for. Nice little brain teasers to have you think about the situation.

I find it so strange that people can really say that they are against divorce and should always/should always be able to, work things out, but divorce is ok only under circumstances.

Isn't divorce kinda like the last resort? Isn't that the end result and decision? People don't usually get a divorce without thinking it through, they have a reason for doing it. If it is so meager and pathetic, allowing the two people to make up, they can always remarry.

Does anyone understand that it is a piece of paper that decides whether or not you are married and can always be re-written?

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Old Apr 25, 2007, 02:27 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: Is divorce the solution or the problem?

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My parents divorced because my mother was unhappy, they were young, and weren't thinking about me. It sucks that they divorced, but what can I do? Nothing. Just love life the way it came.

I believe divorce is a problem when it involves a child. No matter the situation, when there are kids involved.. the couple should try and work out their differences. Isn't that what marriage is all about? Going through life together, helping each other through thick and thin? Yeah, there are going to be some rough spots, but suck it up, and deal.

If the marriage is a condition in which someone is taking advantage of their marriage, there is abuse, or continuous adultry.. AND the couple has already tried to get help, but nothing works. Then that marriage is on the rocks, and needs to be dealt with properly by a divorce.
I so agree with white wolf.

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Sorry, if you don't post it that way, it doesn't come out that way.

So when you say divorce is a problem UNLESS it is hurting one or both persons of the commitment, what is hurting suppose to mean? Does it have to be physical, mental, both; or is it suppose to be the child involved?(if there is one).

If you wake up one morning and suddenly can't stand the sight of your husband/wife, would that make a difference? What if someone is depressed and one day runs out of the house and heads to a bar and has an affair. Someone has got to be pissed about that situation.

You mentioned in your last post that people should just huff it out and quit crying. Just work through it. I thought the whole reason for getting a divorce was to remove the pain and neglect in the relationship.

What are the incorrect reasons for getting a divorce, if the very reasons(you say are reasonably ok)used for getting a divorce are wrong?

Hand it over to you.
Actually, she really comes across quite clearly (to me at least )
Getting a divorce is not just for "removing pain and neglect". It is to end a relationship and any bonds that tie two people together in the eye of the law (excluding children of course).... at least that's my perception of it.


Personally, I agree that divorce becomes a problem. I mean couples should be prepared for sacrifices by way of compromise when they decide to tie the knot. Assuredly there will be arguements and disagreements from time to time that may or may not hurt the others feelings. But they have to accept that life really is like a bed of roses (looks nice, smells nice, seems nice but thorns are EVERYWHERE!! and thorns hurt! XP) There is no need to divorce for "small things" that they'll most probably laugh at in old age together.

However, I think divorce should only be considered when abuse comes in the picture or if love has seriously decided to pack its bags, left for the other end of the universe and never looked back. There is only so much a person can handle and despite the need to fulfill that oath (till death do us part) sometimes you just have to part early (and I don't mean suicide)
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Old Apr 25, 2007, 02:44 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Re: Is divorce the solution or the problem?

My Parents Divorce when I was 12, and I have never been so happy!

I mean nothing like getting gifts from both parents wanting you to say. Who is better.

I think its depends on the person. When it comes to Problem or solution.

But in the days you break it you bought it. ["Referring to Women's Virgin Hood"]

You would just have to stick with it. As for me I don't care if he beats me to death, as long as he's not cheating. I'll take a huge beating. v.v I know it sounds weird, but he's not getting out that easy, and if he says anything about "D" word. [Divorce]

No one will ever hear from him again. Ever~!

The best relationships must endure a lot to stay strong.

The Problem is when he's cheating and brings something home. -_-ll that means war of course!

If you get HIV from your Husband or any STD, I say divorce is in the right hands, Why die for this fool? -_-ll Better or less just kill him. Its better to be a widow then paying child support.

Divorce: Depends on the situation. End of story there~
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Re: Is divorce the solution or the problem?

Divorce is the problem of many married couples, if their was no divorce then many people would think though their relationships even more so. The reson many couples even get married is that they can divorce if things don't work out, but most of the problems that cause many divorces can be worked out just by talking the problem out. I will admit that some divorces are just and are need, but in those cases the problems are mostly related to violence, this is really the only way I see that divorce is good and I that is the only way.
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Re: Is divorce the solution or the problem?

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What if your husband has a alcohol or drug addiction and refuses to quit?

P.S> Tbaism I'm undecided.
If my husband ever does that then i will stand by him and getting to see how much its not helping the relationship and try to be there for him as much as I can because I want to marry for love and not because its to stop being lonely.
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Old Apr 25, 2007, 09:38 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Re: Is divorse the solution or the problem?

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Sorry, if you don't post it that way, it doesn't come out that way.

So when you say divorce is a problem UNLESS it is hurting one or both persons of the commitment, what is hurting suppose to mean? Does it have to be physical, mental, both; or is it suppose to be the child involved?(if there is one).

If you wake up one morning and suddenly can't stand the sight of your husband/wife, would that make a difference? What if someone is depressed and one day runs out of the house and heads to a bar and has an affair. Someone has got to be pissed about that situation.

You mentioned in your last post that people should just huff it out and quit crying. Just work through it. I thought the whole reason for getting a divorce was to remove the pain and neglect in the relationship.

What are the incorrect reasons for getting a divorce, if the very reasons(you say are reasonably ok)used for getting a divorce are wrong?

Hand it over to you.

When I say 'hurting one or both persons of the commitment' I mean in any way possible. But it has to be a continuous thing that the couple has already tried dealing with. If it is abuse, whether the man is abusing his wife physically or mentally, then obviously, this is a situation that is hurting their marriage. Now, if they have already tried getting the man in therapy but nothing has helped, obviously their marriage is past 'on the rocks' and they should get a divorce immediately, seeing as how the situation is endangering both the man and woman. This scenario could go both ways, btw. Same goes for mental abuse. If someone in the marriage consistantly is saying things, putting the other down.. that's just not healthy. And if the accuser is in denial, and won't admit to his or her problem, then that relationship calls for a divorce as well. In my opinion, when there are children involved, and the first two tries do not have an effect on helping the situation, a seperation is called for, regardless.

Yes, I did mention that there are going to be times when the couple doesn't get along, and doesn't agree on certain ideas together. But those are the little things that should be helped and seen through. No one should get a divorce for frivolous things such as those. It just kills the relationship.
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Old Apr 25, 2007, 09:54 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Re: Is divorce the solution or the problem?

It really is a solution. I mean when you think about it everyone wins. The couple aren't forced together in some loveless marriage and are allowed to move on and have better lives.

Lets not forget that the kids win in this situation. Two sets of parents to shower love and affection on them, compete for their love doesn't sound half bad and not having to grow up with two parents who hate being with each other seems pretty good as well.
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