Soshi Kitai

Do things happen for a reason?

Well, I could go back to the old days, where I talked like a dream-seeking girl upon a cloud and sleeping on a starry night never to wake from the miraculous dream...
Or I could go a little ahead of that where everything was torn asunder and I used cold-hard logic to explain my surroundings and to survive the "harsh world" that tore apart at everyone...

(mainly cuz that's the 2 most typical responses wanted for this post)

...but I think... the best response is one with an open mind to logic as well as dreams.


Fate can never be measured or tested or proven or any other fact-finding way... so that is the "fictional" section.
However, Free Will is also "fictional", since all sciences seem to discuss that our bodies work only by our chemicals.
Some state that these chemicals choose our fate, so then comes a strange fusion.


*ahem* I'll try to make this short (I don't want to fill another page)...


When something happens and affects others, even people across the world... can you truly state that it is Fate?

Whether Fate or not, it will affect everyone.


By logic, it is the simple cause and effect clause. Simply: Something that is done, and something that reacts to it.

By logic, the chemicals within us determine how each of us react to each other.

Also by logic, if there happens to be a chain reaction between all of us, then that is a mere accident, a mere coincidence. And by that theory, logic tries to preach the "Big Bang".



By illogical standards, all things happen for a reason. When a single leaf falls, and when a man finds discontent... anything and everything happens for a reason. When a single leaf falls in a barren forest, even with no one to witness, life is there to take that fall. All things happen for a reason...

To an exaggerated state... let's say that a leaf fell and there was nothing at all to witness it... well, let's say that the leaf was made to fall at that exact time. And it's purpose was to alter a small piece of the wind towards another direction... several chain reactions later, a typhoon hits an island. T'was made for that reason.


... I can continue on and on about logic, "fiction", and even a fusion of both if you want... but I really would rather speak my true feelings for once in this forum, seeing that this topic means a lot to me...

... but I won't, that's journal material, once again. So... I'll try to summarize.

And I'll speak this as the "Shadow of Love" from one of Abu Dhabi's old topics from the old Chat Forum.



Whether Fate exists or not...
One should never accept their Fate.
One should strive ever to the end to be who they are and do what they wish.

Though Fate may say that Death is inevitable...
Though Fate may say that Death is your peace...
Though Fate may say that Death is your Fate...

Never. NEVER accept that.
To accept Fate is to accept your Death.
To accept Death is to accept the meaningless of your Life.

Though you may find that even your hard times gives others joys...
...don't let yourself be a tool...
...never let yourself be a tool...

You are never a cog in this clockwork life, only meaning to be replaced...
You are yourself, and you choose who you are, and you choose how you go!

Even those who talk that you can cherish Life for all that it is, while knowing truly well what is your Fate and your Death...
...inside, they will find themselves timid and never finding true love...

because true love is not Fate. Because true love will never be Fate. True Love is to not accept who you are fated to be or fated to be with. True Love knows no bounds, as you will do no matter what to stay with one another and love one another! To be blinded by Fate makes you nothing more than a lifeless tool, forever to believe that your life was made for everyone else's!

...I'll stop here, I think I already went out of hand...

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fallen_ninja

not fate is not predermined everyone has their own right to choose everyone has free will

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atomik_sprout

Let me start by saying that I'm a long winded person, so my apologies for the lengthy reply.

I'm a FIRM believer in fate. I believe that certain events take place for a good damn reason. People you meet and bond with are in your life for a reason. Every action you take has already been planned out before you can even think of it yourself. Why do I believe this? I'll tell you:

In my past experiences, I've always just acted without thinking, I always thrust myself into situations, not knowing the scenario or the consequences. I got myself into lots of trouble (I won't get into details), and even traveled from state to state in order to "find myself." It wasn't until I came back to my hometown that I realized that I was meant to stay here for a while longer. My fate is here for the time being. That's where my friends are, my family, my love... it's all here.

And yeah, there've been times where my beliefs have been tested. Just recently, in fact, I've been tested. The one who I believed was destined to share my life with me didn't want to be with me anymore. But, I feel like she's still destined to be a part of my life. It's my fate to remain by her side, be it best friend or boyfriend. It hurt, and my heart was broken, but that doesn't mean that I can't still have hope and belive that fate has somethin' good cookin' for me.

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Raimann

many people believe in superstition and luck for the acts that happen like if a person gets a chain mail via email, and later forgets their house keys, they believe that it is the faul of the chain letter, when rele they are so nervous that the tend to forget things. also, many people believe in faith. ive herd of stories of rainy days where people believe that the gods are angry at them, when rain is a normal act of nature. but people ake refuge in faith and superstition, because in trouble, faith in their ideas refuge things. so if it comforts you to believe that its faith, superstition or anything else, go ahead. i believe to give people a right to believe.

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Brent-Enix

What an interesting topic! Well... that's a pretty hard question. It depends on your belief, I guess. Maybe, if you're a real spiritual person, you're going to believe the fact that what happens to you is just by fate. And, well, even if you're not, you might still say that "everything is done by fate". Well, truthfully speaking, I DO believe in fate. But I also believe in the "things happen for a reason" fact.

I mean, to me, both seem connected. If, by fate, you were born into this world to "do" something, either important or not, then you would either follow that "fate" or do your own free will. Which is not wrong. For example, you have the free will to read this topic in this very forum. Now, does this topic make you question life more? I don't know if it's also fate that led me to this topic. But also, think about it, what would you be doing right now if you weren't reading this? I know, it's quite confusing! I can't even explain it properly! But, anyway, I hope you got my point.

But, seriously, everybody has the freedom to choose what they believe in, and I'm just a person expressing my own!

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Sazzy

there is some cool points made in this post.

I agree with it be related to how spiritual the person is. Because some may see it as its all be laid out before than, its just you have to follow the path or others may see it as if it happens then it happens.

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koga23

If things happen for a reason then my life is messed up, personly it think its ture to a point but u decide ur life not fait right.

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