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Old May 12, 2006, 05:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Do we have the right to feel pain/sadness/anger?

Hello AO, recently I thought of something. With so much happening in other countries like genocides, massacres, discremination, poverty etc. it occured to me that so many people's lives are way worse than any of ours could ever get or are. So with so many people with lives worse than anyones in America my question to you is do we have the right to feel pain, anger, or sadness (like when something doesn't go your way, or a pet dies etc.) with so much more and intense suffering going on in third world countries? Sometimes I even feel guilty when I'm upset becuase I know compared to other people I have no reason to be, and infact I should rejoice at the life I have been given and the oppurtunities and benefits that come with that life.
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Old May 12, 2006, 06:02 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Do we have the right to feel pain/sadness/anger?

i have thought this over before. we do have the right, but that does not mean we HAVE to use them. if you wish to be angry, be angry, but remember what consequences it could bring. likewise with sadness.
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Re: Do we have the right to feel pain/sadness/anger?

Well we do have the right to feel those emotions. Cause that's what makes us human. I see what you mean. There are worse off people than us by far. So I think that if something were to happen to me I should still feel sad, angry, etc, but it should make me appreciate what I have and also be more compassionate twards those who have it worse.
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Old May 12, 2006, 06:51 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Do we have the right to feel pain/sadness/anger?

I'd have to say that we do have that right. As humans, when we fall we don't feel bad for being embarrassed, such is the selfishness of the species. Though I'm not sure if it is selfish to feel such thoughts when people are dying in the world around us, and even though we may pray for such things to end, massacre and genoside is needed on earth. I know that sounds horrible but there are too many humans on this planet. We need to have a few picked off. Why else would god make hurricanes, typhones, tornadoes and other disasters if he didn't believe this?
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Old May 12, 2006, 07:58 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I'd have to say that we do have that right. As humans, when we fall we don't feel bad for being embarrassed, such is the selfishness of the species. Though I'm not sure if it is selfish to feel such thoughts when people are dying in the world around us, and even though we may pray for such things to end, massacre and genoside is needed on earth. I know that sounds horrible but there are too many humans on this planet. We need to have a few picked off. Why else would god make hurricanes, typhones, tornadoes and other disasters if he didn't believe this?
I am not religious, however I do find it fascinating that you claim God would kill his own people, I find it even more fascinating that you would choose to worship a God who would kill his own people for the sake of population control .
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I am not religious, however I do find it fascinating that you claim God would kill his own people, I find it even more fascinating that you would choose to worship a God who would kill his own people for the sake of population control .
I'm not extremly religous myself. I don't go to church or anything, but I do try to pray when I can. Not because I want god to hear, but for myself to hear. I believe that's why most people pray. It's like a journal that they speak completly truthfully to, because they think that if they lie, god will zap them...
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Re: Do we have the right to feel pain/sadness/anger?

The thing is about religion, most people don't take the chance and lie, just to see what happens, if you know what I mean. That's how most people are kept in the dark.
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Re: Do we have the right to feel pain/sadness/anger?

Yes but still you did state that natural disasters were there to pick off a few people because our population is too high. And you did state that god created them.
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Re: Do we have the right to feel pain/sadness/anger?

I really had fun with this question before.
I have a right...All beings have a right to fell.
I am souless sometimes but ask yourself this.
If your able to fell of course.
"If you hurt an animal does it not whine?"
Also ask yourself this.
"Do you have the right to jude what others feel?"
I know I dont sometimes,I cant talk to some people the way I want too.
All I ever do is hurt them,even if I am of innocence.
I am souless,that simple,I hide pain and let it out on my enemy's.The pain they feel is nothing compared to me.
You must walk in people's shoes before you can say anything about them.I walk in there shoes alot.
Therefore I can justify my means and my end.
I have a right.
Do you?
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Old May 12, 2006, 08:30 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I really had fun with this question before.
I have a right...All beings have a right to fell.
I am souless sometimes but ask yourself this.
If your able to fell of course.
"If you hurt an animal does it not whine?"
Also ask yourself this.
"Do you have the right to jude what others feel?"
I know I dont sometimes,I cant talk to some people the way I want too.
All I ever do is hurt them,even if I am of innocence.
I am souless,that simple,I hide pain and let it out on my enemy's.The pain they feel is nothing compared to me.
You must walk in people's shoes before you can say anything about them.I walk in there shoes alot.
Therefore I can justify my means and my end.
I have a right.
Do you?
Hmm... "jugding" what others feel? Do mean as deciding weither they are feeling joy or anger? In that case a classification of a certain emotion is done through observation. So are you asking me weither we have the right to observe someone else's emotions? Becuase if you are that makes absolutely no sense. We observe other's emotions weither we like it or not, choose to or not through facial expressions and actions. So observing an emotion is inevitable, and no right to doing so is involved. Another thing, your definition of souless is inaccurate. A souless person feels nothing, no emotion, however you do as stated, you feel pain. Therefore you have a soul. Also I find your statement of "The pain they feel is nothing compared to me" to be out of arrogance. Many more people suffer much worse than you could ever imagine, even in your disturbed state. So your suffering is of nothing to theirs. Also your statement of "You must walk in people's shoes before you can say anything about them.I walk in there shoes alot." Is out of total, unadulterated ignorance. Have you ever walked in the shoes of a Jewish prisoner at Awshuitz concentration camp? Or a prisoner of the the Vietnam war? Or a person who's legs have been blown off by a mine in Iraq?(take your pick, I have more) Likely not.
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Re: Do we have the right to feel pain/sadness/anger?

In the instance of putting ourselves in others shoes is impossible though. We might assume how one's feeling, but we never know for sure. They could be having problems at home making things different than how they are now. In my oppinion of the statement about putting yourself in the shoes of a Jewish prisoner, we will never be able to acomplish such a task. Though we try to believe what it must have been like we still must assume what they think, and thus the topic repeats itself with assuming with whether or not we should feel bad about feeling bad for ourselves. Is there truely an awnser to the question? Or is it just one of those things that should be left be?
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