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    Re: Do you consider trannies real women?

    Good job Miroku. I had to keep telling people in this thread I was talking about transvestites. However I'm never using the word "transgender" because it's too vague and androgyne just sounds retarded.
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    Re: Do you consider trannies real women?

    No, not real women. I have nothing against it, but by definition that kind of thing is decided at birth.

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    Re: Do you consider trannies real women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Miroku4444 View Post
    I think we need some terms defined here:

    Trannie= A Transgender Person

    Transgender= (IPA: [tʰɹænz'dʒɛndɚ], from trans (Latin) and gender (English) ) is a general term applied to a variety of individuals, behaviors, and groups involving tendencies that diverge from the normative gender role (woman or man) commonly, but not always, assigned at birth, as well as the role traditionally held by society.

    Transgender is the state of one's "gender identity" (self-identification as male, female, both or neither) not matching one's "assigned gender" (identification by others as male or female based on physical/genetic sex). Transgender does not imply any specific form of sexual orientation — transgender people may identify as heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual, pansexual or asexual.

    A transgender individual may have characteristics that are normally associated with a particular gender, identify elsewhere on the traditional gender continuum, or exist outside of it as "other," "agender," "intergender," or "third gender". Transgender people may also identify as bigender, or along several places on either the traditional transgender continuum, or the more encompassing continuums which have been developed in response to the significantly more detailed studies done in recent years.

    Transsexual= Transsexual people identify as, or desire to live and be accepted as, a member of the gender opposite to that assigned at birth.Many transsexual people also want to change their bodies. These physical changes are collectively known as sex reassignment therapy and often include hormones and sex reassignment surgery. References to "pre-operative", "post-operative" and "non-operative" transsexual people indicate whether they have had, or are planning to have sex reassignment surgery. Although there are genetic, hormonal, and psychological theories, there is currently no known cause of transsexualism.

    Cross-dresser= A cross-dresser is someone who wears clothing of the opposite gender for any reason. Cross-dressers may not identify with, or want to be the opposite gender, nor adopt the behaviors or practices of the opposite gender, and generally do not want to change their bodies medically. The majority of cross-dressers identify as heterosexual.



    Drag king and drag queen= Drag is a term applied to clothing and make-up worn as a costume for special occasions and usually because a person is performing or entertaining as a hostess, stage artist or at an event (e.g. Rupaul). This is in contrast to those who cross-dress for reasons other than as a source of entertainment for others or transgendered people who are not necessarily drag queens or cross-dressers but sometimes fit into those labels. Drag is usually theatrical, often comedic, sometimes grotesque, and has been occasionally considered a caricature of women by feminists. Within the genre of drag are gender illusionists who do try to "pass" as another gender. Drag artists play and educate on various gender issues and have a long tradition in LGBT culture although heterosexuals have had drag in straight culture as well, with many straight men wearing drag at Halloween and straight comics (e.g. Dame Edna, Monty Python) including drag in their acts. Whereas drag queen usually applies to female identified drag, the term "drag king" is usually women doing male drag. A faux queen is a newer term covering women doing traditional female drag.

    Transvestite= A transvestite is someone who cross-dresses, but transvestic fetishism is a medical term for someone with a fetish for cross-dressing. To prevent confusion, the term "transvestite" has been rejected in favor of "cross-dresser". Transvestic fetishism has been considered a derogatory term, as it implies a hierarchy in which the sexual element of transgender behavior is of low social value. It is often difficult to distinguish between a fetish for cross-dressing, and transgender behaviour that includes sexual play.

    Androgyne= An androgyne is a person who does not fit cleanly into the typical gender roles of their society. Androgynes may identify as beyond gender, between genders, moving across genders, entirely genderless, or any or all of these. Androgyne identities include pangender, bigender, ambigender, non-gendered, agender, gender fluid or intergender. Androgyne used to be a synonym for intersex people, but this usage has fallen out of favor. Androgyny can be either physical or psychological; it does not depend on birth sex and is not limited to intersex people. Occasionally, people who do not define themselves as androgynes adapt their physical appearance to look androgynous. This outward androgyny has been used in fashion, and the milder forms of it (women wearing men's pants or men wearing two earrings, for example) are not seen as transgender behavior.
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