TheYellowMnM

Personally this is a tough one for me. I am not necessarily a big fan of rap, but the first radio station that comes on when i turn on my radio is a Hip-Hop R&B station. While this Simmons person has a good intention, it is just not right. Most of the time the n-word used in songs by rappers have totally different meaning, not used with all the racist connotations. Though I do wish they would get rid of the "make it rain on my hoes" type of songs.

Why? Because this type of things have become reality. The respect for African American females have dropped for sure when it comes to getting a spot in a music video, or Kanye's "she's a gold digger"

I hate to beat on a dead horse, but ultimately it is once again left up to the parents to educate. For most of us who have already passed middle school we know what's right and what is wrong when it comes to those words. So it is just those kids that people should worry about.

Tavrail

What exactly is the the problem with swearing in rap? So what if kids swear? Its up to the parents to enforce rules on the kids and if they can't stop their kids from swearing well then thats their fault, the kids bad attitude will reflect the bad parenting.

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fayt lingod

the problem with swearing in rap is when it goes far and beyond any reasonable limit, there are some rap songs that don't have non-curse words in them or go something like
"these N-, N-, N-, these H-s,"
or something like it, stuff like that shouldn't be said, PERIOD. freedom of speech ends when you offend someone else, and I was offended Years Ago!

Kids got about 55% of their tendancy for swearing from their parents 15 years ago.

Now that percent is around 25, maybe 50-ish is MUSIC and the other 25% from other sources. Rap is probably the most litened to genre of music (i'm happy to say i don't contribute to THAT statistic) and it curses and makes referenses to gangs/sex/drugs/drinking/violence more than EVERY OTHER GENRE TOGETHER! i am glad to see a comming back of rock, as it makes only about a sixth the dirty references (to say nothing of the cursing) as rap.

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Spin Da Ish

The song (make it rain - fat joe ft. lil wayne) is not really saying that they are insulting the "hoe" they're saying that they have enough money to buy a hoe (prostitute) and have enough left over to make it rain bills on her. thats all they're implying

also........


So far on this thread there was no actual rap fan (excluding me) and i seem to be the only one thats disturbed by this a lot. I dont mind the swear words, it adds the lil truth taht this was once made because people wanted to speak they're mind. take the rap legend Tupac for example. he was raised in teh Ghetto and all he rapped about was his old habits in teh ghetto and also how bad it was. thats rap for you but now hip hop..... thats whats usually saying those words out of context. If you listen to a rapper fan talk about this, they dont care what it means usually unless we can copy the line, sing it, rap it, and thast all becuase it sounds cool. I knwo tons of people that acutally hear songs with a lot more swearing and usage of the n word tahn normal and to me... its liek "oh it has a cool beat" or "his voice really fits!" or "nice flow" we don't nessicarily look for the context as much as normal songs.
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JefferyXie

Curse words do not only come from rap.There may be swearing in other songs(not that i am aware of) and swearing from parents or peers that may influence the kids to curse.The blame can not be put on one type of music alone.Eliminating curse words is not the solution because it won't do anything much.Reducing curse words might be one solution but it may be a short term solution to a long term problem.

dude101

a wise rock musician one said "i'm on a high way to hell" and thats what i'm seeing music heading towards.

taking swear words out of music, epically rap & hip-hop, i just see it taking away some of the meaning behind the songs. but if anything once they go commercial they do seem to loose it anyway.

so i guess i can see it alright, once they go commercial and stretch out to the wider audience (kids - young teenage) that they should use the appropriate language for them. its not violating the freedom of speech as such, since its the artist intension to bring in as many audience as they can, since they pretty much in it for the money. plus when there songs get aired on radio, they cut the words out and u get huge spaces in the songs so, from their prospective as well to increase sale and get the songs making sense it is the wise decision to remove them. (i've seen some successful artist do this, it seems to work for them)

but for the rest of them in this genre i'm pretty sure they are "on a highway to hell". (i love my old time rock)

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fled79

/SIGH.....This is gonna end up similar to the "Curse Words" thread I can see it.
If they try and take the curse words out of Rap, or any music for that matter it will take some of the meaning away I think. Curse words make you listen, they catch your attention, they give you that rebel feeling when you need it because they are deemed "BAD". oooohhhhhhooohhhhh......I don't get it. They are just words get over it already!! If you don't want grandma hearing it turn the radio down, same for your kids. There are still plenty of words out there besides curse words that can mean much more horrible crap. The word "Molestation" for instance. It's not a curse word but you wouldn't just run around saying it to everyone whould you? Hell no you wouldn't. People would think you were stoned or something, but it won't get you thrown in jail...Gah, I think it's stupid to get mad over words, especially when they are not even directed towards YOU.

Spin Da Ish

Acutally if you read the first post and saw the article i posted you can seethere is a big difference. Just some people dont even bother and try to answer by the title only. the article is trying to remove specific words from rap and thats the problem here now swearing. the problem is removing them!

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Sepulchure

Well....you have a freedom to free speach but,Curse words are still kinda bad...

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Spin Da Ish

and here we go again i wanted thsi tread to be about eliminating curse words from rap snd if people were against it like me but its still ending up as people saying stuff about eliminating curse words period. just saying though i've said thsi before today and its been ignored. w/e

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