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Old Feb 15, 2007, 03:06 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Re: English Only?

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I agree with you on that one,

but my post was aiming more to those who come to live permantly in English speaking countries.

Replying to the first post with his refusal, I think that person should keep a bit of an open mind, like what PsiKnot said, how would that person feel if he was refused service simply because the waiter didn't know his language.

He is making a huge assumption that anyone who comes into his restraunt live in America and can't speak english. Too bad about tourists..
You say its a shame for tourists but when you go to a difrent country you should be able to speak English, it dosnt matter where you go there is always someone around how speaks English.
There are very few countrys where you cant learn English also when your alot on the internet its also a very useful language.
English is the only language that is spoken in almost evry country and there are few languages that come close to it and even if they come close there not even spoken in half as much countrys as English
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Old Feb 15, 2007, 03:30 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Re: English Only?

I think it is discrimination. Not sorry to say.

Understand that if attack America. As in. "I don't think the pledge should be said" That Silly! Sit your butt down, don't change the nation, because your not from here.

But as for the land of the Free. It should help others trying to fit in here. I was told to Learn Spanish because its the second language. of American.

English is the official language, but it has many delects(sp)

When we go there, we don't look for a English town. He learn there language.

But I don't think they should slam the door on ones Face cause they can't speak a language. Thats Awful, and that feeling is bad, but that person should have had someone with them.

As for a America, being the worlds "Everyones Welcome" <- I Think you should live up to it.

Many languages are taught in school, but we can't keep up. I am sorry if one have trouble with English, but it happens, but there should be no sign on the door saying. "English Speaking only"
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Old Feb 15, 2007, 03:32 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Actually the US does not have an official language. No where is it written that English is the official language. The states are suppose to be a melting pot of people, not a melting pot of english speaking people. If it really bothers a person when they cannot understand another language, maybe they should better themselves by learning a foreign language.
I don't know if the house passed this bill or not yet, but it says the senate did, anybody know if it became a law or not?

Language Log: Senate votes for official English

The most recent thing I read about it was in september, whether or not they voted since then I don't know. It's not going to prohibit anybody from speaking their own language, but it will help businesses and such and kinda encourage people in our country to learn english, seeing as how apparently 12 million don't know how to speak it.
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Old Feb 15, 2007, 05:42 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I think that defeats the purpose of the U.S. I thought we were suppose to be the country that learns many languages and is accepting of any race or religion. I really wish we could go back to ideas of our fore fathers and learn to accept change. A little Spanish never hurt anyone. All you need to know is "Hola, Como te llamas? Me llamo Morgan, Como estas? or a little french, Esque vusette American? A few phrases here and there is very beneficial to ourselves and others. It promotes understanding between EVERYONE.
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Old Feb 15, 2007, 08:33 PM   #16 (permalink)
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So sometime ago I saw that some restauraunt-owner in Pennsylvania had a policy to only serve customers if they ordered in the American English language. Many people around there say it is discrimination towards immigrants and the owner says and I quote "You live in America you should know how to speak English." So what is the point of view of others on this? I personally don't find it discriminating but that is just me, as a matter of fact I say all of the U.S.A. should do this. If immigrants move to America they should know English.
Ok so I dont think I get it... We are talking about ordering food right? If a person can't speak enough english to order food off of the menu. Then they SHOULDN'T be served! What? Ya gonna get a translator every time you want to get some pancakes at Denny's? Seriously, even if all you can say is "pancakes" you better be able to at least order! Or silently go to the grocery store until you can figure it out.
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Old Feb 15, 2007, 10:43 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: English Only?

I don't know how much English the customers needs to know, but I think most at least know some. You can't expect to serve a customer well if the communication between them and the employee is broken. Can't just walk into a English speaking restaurant and started ordering in German.

The owner is in the borderline of being a faggot if he expects every single customer to speak fluent English and won't serve you if you don't look/speak like a English speaking American.
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Old Feb 15, 2007, 10:50 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Re: English Only?

If somebody comes in a restaurant and speaks no english at all, how the heck are they going to order anyways, assuming no one is there to translate. It's not like restaurants have interpretors on the sideline.

The only reason I will be against this restaurant is due to traveling foreigners. If he were to refuse to serve them just because they don't speak good english, then that is clear nonsense. But for people to live in this country and not know a little english, come on.
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Old Feb 16, 2007, 03:08 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Re: English Only?

In order for someone to integrate into American society completely, they need to know some form of english. And for someone to integrate deeper into society, they need to know some form of spanish.

Whether certain Americans see it or not, or country is rapidly moving twords a high level of spanish speaking citizens. It is good to be bilingual in a time like this, for the simple fact of getting a higher paying job.
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Re: English Only?

How can a person say, "My language is better than yours?" Look at the world we live in: Welsh television, Spanish "telenovelas," Japanese graphic novels, even New York's Coney Island has Cyrillic (the Russian alphabet) everywhere. We live in a mixed world; therefore, people speak a mixture of languages. Personally, I believe that you ought to be able to get what you want across the language barrier (if you are visiting or living in a country with a language that is not English, be sure you are able to tell them what you need in their own idiom). Even if all you know is a sentence:

* "Rwy'n dod o Loegr. Diod a bawb." ~ Welsh (I come from England, drinks all around.)
* "Perdoname, mujeriego. Soy un hombre." ~ Spanish (Pardon me, womanizer. I am a man.)
* "Ittai nan nanda, kono mushi wa." ~ Japanese (Excuse me, there's a fly in my soup.)
* "Voulez-vous cesser de me cracher dessus pendant que vous parlez?!" ~ French (Would you stop spitting on me while you're talking?!)
* "K sozhaleniyu, ya poka ne govoryu po russki." ~ Russian (Unfortunately, I cannot yet speak Russian.)

See? Useful phrases . . .
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Old Feb 19, 2007, 01:44 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Re: English Only?

yes definatly... they move here they gotta learn how to speak american/canadian!! they cant get anywherein life not knowing our language....
concluding statment: LEARN OUR LANGUAGE AND IF YOU DONT, DONT EXPECT US TO GIVE YOU SPECIAL TREATMENT.
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Old Feb 19, 2007, 04:55 PM   #22 (permalink)
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How can a person say, "My language is better than yours?" Look at the world we live in: Welsh television, Spanish "telenovelas," Japanese graphic novels, even New York's Coney Island has Cyrillic (the Russian alphabet) everywhere. We live in a mixed world; therefore, people speak a mixture of languages. Personally, I believe that you ought to be able to get what you want across the language barrier (if you are visiting or living in a country with a language that is not English, be sure you are able to tell them what you need in their own idiom). Even if all you know is a sentence:

* "Rwy'n dod o Loegr. Diod a bawb." ~ Welsh (I come from England, drinks all around.)
* "Perdoname, mujeriego. Soy un hombre." ~ Spanish (Pardon me, womanizer. I am a man.)
* "Ittai nan nanda, kono mushi wa." ~ Japanese (Excuse me, there's a fly in my soup.)
* "Voulez-vous cesser de me cracher dessus pendant que vous parlez?!" ~ French (Would you stop spitting on me while you're talking?!)
* "K sozhaleniyu, ya poka ne govoryu po russki." ~ Russian (Unfortunately, I cannot yet speak Russian.)

See? Useful phrases . . .
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I will have to remember these...Anyway Maybe we should all learn latin. Most languages are derived from it anyway. Then we could travel anywhere we want and know that if we dont know the language of the country at least they will understand latin. The entire world could communicate this way and everyone would be considerd bilingual.
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