Gang war and drive by shooting (is it reasonable enough to own a gun?)

PhoenixSara · May 14, 2008, 08:47 AM

i don't know how familiar the others are on Gang war and drive by shooting, but do you think this is reasonable to get a license to carry permit for a gun or not? ( just asking for opinions here)

I was raised in a city where the down tonwn part has been known for drive by and well gang war. my cousin was shot by a drive by because he was mistaken to be part of a gang that he only happen to be in shool with.

let's kick this discussion off: i am not infavor of permits for a license to carry a gun (whether bought or home made ) there have been too many victims of these things and i don't know the motives of the gangs but involving innocient people and kids well is just plain horrid. and teaching them that there is no other way out of this life.

*hellknight* · May 14, 2008, 08:51 AM

It ain't the guns fault, its our fault for owning the guns, we are the ones who use them to kill other people, this is going through a lot of kids minds because they seen it on tv and believe it some kind a game. Thousands of older adults live that life by voilence. not the guns, gangs think they are fighting for a reason, what reason is that? I don't know the answer to that question, but I think guns aren't violence, we are the violence.

Sol-x · May 14, 2008, 08:55 AM

Well, I can tell you right now that having a gun in any case is wrong to me. And as the drive-by part, thats even less of a reason to have one. I've seen many drive-byes in my life. Heck I got shot once because I was simply at the wrong place at the wrong time(I will try to download a pic. of my scar). Gun shouldn't be on the streets for any reason, including for gang wars.

NeoDeath90 · May 14, 2008, 09:14 AM

it certianly makes you think "Do i want to live/continue living in a gang war area?"

if you dont wish to live where this happens and not have to ponder whether or not to own a gun, then stay where you feel you are safe.

if, on the other hand, you choose to live in these places, i would advise having a gun, only if you are sure you know what you are doing and have the logical sense to use the gun to only prtect yourself and your property.

the gun is not at fault if it kills some one. that burden belongs to the shooter and his/her motives.

*Arrianna* · May 14, 2008, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by PhoenixSara

let's kick this discussion off: i am not infavor of permits for a license to carry a gun (whether bought or home made ) there have ben too many victims of these things and i don't know the motives of the gangs but involving innocient people and kids well is just plain horrid. and teaching them that there is no other way out of this life.

Let me just point out that gun permits are not given to gang members but rather people that could end up being victimized by them The question isn't whether you think gangs should have guns but whether you think others should be able to defend themselves against the gangs etc in this world.

I think if I lived in an area with a lot of gang activity I would think of buying one to defend myself with. So yes, that would be reasonable.

Scourge · May 14, 2008, 02:06 PM

I agree with Arrianna and Hellknight. Guns are not given to gang members; in fact, most guns used are either stolen or smuggled in. I also believe that we the people have the right to defend our selves with a gun. If some one breaks into my house I will use a gun to defend my family and my self as I am not taking any chances. Also, if another person threatens you with a gun and all you have is a rock or a knife well then my friend you’re either in for a world of hurt or wind up dead. Also the gangs that use guns are what I call stupid people, and its stupid people like gangs who use guns to kill and hurt others for what ever crappy and completely moronic and stupid reason they have. So it’s not the guns fault, it’s the stupid people using them.

Miroku4444 · May 14, 2008, 10:48 PM

What we should be doing is cracking down on these illegal guns and removing them, or at least reducing the numbers.

Sol-x · May 15, 2008, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Miroku4444

What we should be doing is cracking down on these illegal guns and removing them, or at least reducing the numbers.

Easier said than done.They odds of people making a positive impact in this situation is slim to nil. And most people will not help out for the fact that they are scared of getting shot themselves.....

PhoenixSara · May 16, 2008, 08:47 AM

most of the people in my family is in law enforcement so the guns that they enounter from gangs are either stolen (some of them have even stolen the permits along with the guns or falsify or forge it) or hand made at home from somewhere my point of this discussion is. is it reasonable enough to get one and protect one's self and home . i lived in ny all my life before moving to the philippines where the drive by can be bad depending on what area you are.

and i agree with the points but the guns are not being blamed here it is just a lifeless thing that will not shoot until someone pulls the trigger.

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PhoenixSara Upcoming Legend Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The deepest Abyss of the Ocean Posts: 578 Thanks: 22 Thanked 21 Times in 21 Posts Credits: 21,252	Gang war and drive by shooting (is it reasonable enough to own a gun?) i don't know how familiar the others are on Gang war and drive by shooting, but do you think this is reasonable to get a license to carry permit for a gun or not? ( just asking for opinions here) I was raised in a city where the down tonwn part has been known for drive by and well gang war. my cousin was shot by a drive by because he was mistaken to be part of a gang that he only happen to be in shool with. let's kick this discussion off: i am not infavor of permits for a license to carry a gun (whether bought or home made ) there have been too many victims of these things and i don't know the motives of the gangs but involving innocient people and kids well is just plain horrid. and teaching them that there is no other way out of this life. __________________ Angels dare to go where devils don't dare to tread. Clan Rainstorm 2nd Company, Kunoichi Leader http://animalwonders.b1.jcink.com/index.php?act=idx Last edited by PhoenixSara; May 16, 2008 at 08:49 AM. Reason: spell check and grammar
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hellknight Hell Enforcer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: South dakota, Native American Posts: 1,435 Thanks: 2 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts Credits: 14,878	Re: Gang war and drive by shooting (is it reasonable enough to own a gun?) It ain't the guns fault, its our fault for owning the guns, we are the ones who use them to kill other people, this is going through a lot of kids minds because they seen it on tv and believe it some kind a game. Thousands of older adults live that life by voilence. not the guns, gangs think they are fighting for a reason, what reason is that? I don't know the answer to that question, but I think guns aren't violence, we are the violence.
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Sol-x Diamond in the Rough Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: hell's core Posts: 195 Thanks: 2 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Credits: 8,596	Re: Gang war and drive by shooting (is it reasonable enough to own a gun?) Well, I can tell you right now that having a gun in any case is wrong to me. And as the drive-by part, thats even less of a reason to have one. I've seen many drive-byes in my life. Heck I got shot once because I was simply at the wrong place at the wrong time(I will try to download a pic. of my scar). Gun shouldn't be on the streets for any reason, including for gang wars. __________________
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NeoDeath90 I'm watching you Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Somers NY Posts: 545 Thanks: 6 Thanked 16 Times in 16 Posts Credits: 18,784	Re: Gang war and drive by shooting (is it reasonable enough to own a gun?) it certianly makes you think "Do i want to live/continue living in a gang war area?" if you dont wish to live where this happens and not have to ponder whether or not to own a gun, then stay where you feel you are safe. if, on the other hand, you choose to live in these places, i would advise having a gun, only if you are sure you know what you are doing and have the logical sense to use the gun to only prtect yourself and your property. the gun is not at fault if it kills some one. that burden belongs to the shooter and his/her motives. __________________ Thank you, Yasmine, for this badass sig!
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Scourge Diamond in the Rough Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Southern California Posts: 378 Thanks: 62 Thanked 29 Times in 26 Posts Credits: 25,320	Re: Gang war and drive by shooting (is it reasonable enough to own a gun?) I agree with Arrianna and Hellknight. Guns are not given to gang members; in fact, most guns used are either stolen or smuggled in. I also believe that we the people have the right to defend our selves with a gun. If some one breaks into my house I will use a gun to defend my family and my self as I am not taking any chances. Also, if another person threatens you with a gun and all you have is a rock or a knife well then my friend you’re either in for a world of hurt or wind up dead. Also the gangs that use guns are what I call stupid people, and its stupid people like gangs who use guns to kill and hurt others for what ever crappy and completely moronic and stupid reason they have. So it’s not the guns fault, it’s the stupid people using them. __________________ IT WILL FOR EVER BE A SCILENT SPRING IN THE TIBERIUM GARDEN
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PhoenixSara Upcoming Legend Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The deepest Abyss of the Ocean Posts: 578 Thanks: 22 Thanked 21 Times in 21 Posts Credits: 21,252	Re: Gang war and drive by shooting (is it reasonable enough to own a gun?) most of the people in my family is in law enforcement so the guns that they enounter from gangs are either stolen (some of them have even stolen the permits along with the guns or falsify or forge it) or hand made at home from somewhere my point of this discussion is. is it reasonable enough to get one and protect one's self and home . i lived in ny all my life before moving to the philippines where the drive by can be bad depending on what area you are. and i agree with the points but the guns are not being blamed here it is just a lifeless thing that will not shoot until someone pulls the trigger. __________________ Angels dare to go where devils don't dare to tread. Clan Rainstorm 2nd Company, Kunoichi Leader http://animalwonders.b1.jcink.com/index.php?act=idx Last edited by PhoenixSara; May 16, 2008 at 08:48 AM. Reason: grammar
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