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Old Jul 12, 2008, 12:58 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Re: Gay Marriages

I can't find a reason, why those marriages and/or adoptions shouldn't be allowed. Because the pope said so?
Gay or not - love is love. People, who call it wrong..Well, I'm at a loss to understand it. No, I'm not gay and not religious, but I don't think, religion is a indispensable part of love, there's not only the church-wedding.
So.. Well, I think, it's ok. Why not.

And, uh, unnatural? As far as i know: Animals =/= love, animals = preservation of their species from dying out.
I think, comparing this with human-relationships is not necessary.
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Old Jul 12, 2008, 03:41 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Re: Gay Marriages

I don't really care if they do or not it is that persons life, and people should not be that
judgmental because in religion no one can judge you but God.

They should be able to adopt because there are worser people out there adopting, and by not letting them
adopt we are not only being judgmental but also controlling, and we are to not let these
people have their rights because the Pope said so? That ridiculous and also leading
them to think of suicide, and much more would also be a sin if you want to get religious.
In a way we are responsible for that persons death and not be true to themselves by
living a lie and God would not want that, God would want us to be happy as his children
no matter what as long as we are with him.

I am not gay but I still believe people should have their freedom of rights and also it being unnatural, so is the whole concept
of sex and marriage, but it is about love and if they truly love each other than what else
matters, nothing. Times have changed since the Days of Old where tings were kept in
the closet and people say that the world is changing and we have to change with it
but you can still be yourself but adapt to the world and to negative people who do not
except the world or anyone in it.

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Old Jul 14, 2008, 08:12 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Re: Gay Marriages

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I don't really care if they do or not it is that persons life, and people should not be that
judgmental because in religion no one can judge you but God.
Well actually if its a religion that does follow the Bible then they can judge. The correct thing to say is that they shouldn't judge harshly.

Well I realize that many are going to see my name and think great the gay hater is back on AO and posting. Well don't fear I was just passing by and probably won't be on often.

Well I think by this point anyone on AO who has been in an argument with me on this sort of thing or even seen my post know where I stand, but for all the newcomers here it goes.

I believe that marriage is something that is dictated by the Bible. The Bible speaks out against gays and says its a sin. So with this being said not only do I know that gay marriages are wrong, but the whole concept of man&man women&women is wrong. So yeah its a big no on gay marriages from me.
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Old Jul 15, 2008, 12:22 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Re: Gay Marriages

Heck yes they should be legalized. It's not right for us to tell people who they can and cannot get married too. Not to mention it's their life and if that's what they choose to do then it's their choice, you don't have to like it but you will respect the fact that it's their decision... or at least you should.
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Old Jul 15, 2008, 12:55 AM   #38 (permalink)
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Re: Gay Marriages

The reason people get worked up about gay marriage is because according to Christian faith and (consequently) US law marriage is a sacred bond between a man and a woman. People argue that we'd violating the law but more importantly the sacredness of marriage if two like genders were to wed, but I beg to differ. If you ask me, protestants began the destruction of marriage's sacredness a long time ago. King Henry VIII, anyone? That alleged Christian that converted England to protestantism just so he could get rid of a chick?

1 in 2 marriages in our country today end in divorce. Premartial sex has sky-rocketed to the point of normalcy, and it's not uncommon for couples to have had a husband or wife before they settle down into another marriage. I don't find that sacred at all, that's not love and it's not holy, so I always ask myself, how dare straight people claim gay people can't marry because it violates the sancity of marriage, when we destroyed it centuries ago?

Please don't get me wrong in this generalization. I realize there are still people that take marriage very seriously, I do not believe that because you got a divorce you are some sort of hell bound adulterer, but I digress, we are all hypocrites and sinners, so if gays want to marry I say **** it, you can't break what's already broken. Let the people view marriage as sacred hold their beliefs, but let's let the gays marry and people divorce. We're all about watching out for the minority in this country, and it pisses me off when we can't just do something this simple.
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Old Jul 15, 2008, 07:49 AM   #39 (permalink)
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Re: Gay Marriages

Well in all honesty... I really dont care. I mean I believe if two people who love each other want to be with each other thats fine by me. But all in all, I am not saying yay or nay. They just legalized gay marriages here in California. But as I said before... Good for them but I really dont give a rats arse.
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Old Jul 26, 2008, 09:04 PM   #40 (permalink)
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Re: Gay Marriages

I used to oppose Gay marriage alot now I could care less.If someone gay wants to marry so be it.It's between them & their God if they worship one.I still think that the ideal marriage coupling is 1 man & 1 woman ,as nature planned it ,but it's not my place to judge others.I for one support the legalization of Polygamous marriages.If you're of legal age you should be able to marry whom ever you want or have as many spouses as you can adford to support financially.As long as you are not marring children the Government should get out of marriage.
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Old Jul 26, 2008, 09:28 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Well actually if its a religion that does follow the Bible then they can judge. The correct thing to say is that they shouldn't judge harshly.

Well I realize that many are going to see my name and think great the gay hater is back on AO and posting. Well don't fear I was just passing by and probably won't be on often.

Well I think by this point anyone on AO who has been in an argument with me on this sort of thing or even seen my post know where I stand, but for all the newcomers here it goes.

I believe that marriage is something that is dictated by the Bible. The Bible speaks out against gays and says its a sin. So with this being said not only do I know that gay marriages are wrong, but the whole concept of man&man women&women is wrong. So yeah its a big no on gay marriages from me.
In a way it is, however, marriages have been going on long before the creation OF the bible, however I slightly agree with your points. Marriage is a "Christian" thing more than anything else in today. However, they do have unionships for same se xmarriages, just some States make them illeagal, or banned (Hopefully they'll have common sense and make it legal and whatnot).

Really, I see no issue with "Same sex unions" because chances are, though probably not recorded, they had that back in the ya know, before that huge uprise of Christianity. Now, I'm just assumig this so I CAN be wrong about that.

In any case, I could care less about marraige, due to some points Dark made. I say a sincere "I love you" should suffice and staying together for some time shows something.
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Old Jul 30, 2008, 10:16 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Re: Gay Marriages

marriage between anyone is fine with me. if you want to make that commitment go right ahead, its your life, and your buisness. it shouldnt matter what sex you are. Im for gay marrige, because my brother is gay, and he loves Mark enough to kill anyone who would hurt him. You should only get married if you want to, Love is not defined by a peice of paper certificate. You cant change who you fall in love with.

Marriage rates have gone down because people either wait, or women like independence from men, even with children. People rush into this commitment with out thinking the whole thing through. They are either too young, then regret it later. Or rush into a couple hours to months later. Divorce has gone up because of it, alot of times it takes years later to know you should never have gone through with it.
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Re: Gay Marriages

Who cares if gays can mary, it's not like it's the end of the world, who would you let a man and a woman mary and not two men...
Besides, being gay is natural and if you look at some of the ancient greek and roman god's you'd see there are quite alot gay figures in those myths... So why not allow them to mary, if they're happy with eachother that's the most important thing
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Old Aug 01, 2008, 02:51 PM   #44 (permalink)
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How do you feel about gay marriages? Should it be legalized? I went to a Chritian school that said it should be Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve. Personally I think love transcends sexual orientation and can be a blessing. I saw a gay couple adopt children and live harmoniously. It was just unheard of in my school and my classmates thought gayness was lame. Maybe they felt superior to gay people and knew that the Pope wouldn't approve of gay marriages. Then again the Pope is also against abortion. Religion is always superimposing its mores on others but if all roads lead to Rome then even religious people could not deny the love two people have for each other. Kids growing up with gay parents can be just as cool as kids with heterosexual parents maybe even more so if the love is sincere, and honourable because they practice and open mind and toleration. Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie said they wouldn't marry until all people could get married, meaning gay rights. I think homosexuality is another test of tolerance even if it is weird for me to see two men kissing or two women kissing. It's healthy though since in the 50s gay people were taught to berate themselves for being gay leading to suicidal thoughts and matters of not being to accept themselves. I know however that just as it is uncomfortable for people to see homosexual love making it can just be as hard for a gay man to picture making love to a woman, which he would probably find disgusting. Gay people have rights too. It's great the world is finally coming to grips with a African presidential nominee, or a female presidential nominee... I wonder if we will ever have a gay president. I am for legalizing gay marriages.... if only the ultra conservatives would loosen up. sigh.

I, being a lesbian, think that it shouldn't matter if you are a guy marrying a guy or a girl marrying a girl, it should just be about love and devotion. People make us out to be evil or just plain old f--ked up in the head, but we go through more hardships being who we are than anyone else. We have to deal with our lifestyle along with everything else. Loving someone unconditionally is all that matters. If you want to get married to your partner then it should be allowed. You are promising yourself to only that person and sharing your life and troubles with only that person. They say we shouldn't be allowed to have children either, that it will be hard on the child with out the mother role or the father role, but they don't realize that we were born to someone else and that they have family. There are more people in the childs life to help him/her grow to be an outstanding citizen if being gay/lesbian/bi/transexual/trans-gender was accepted among society. We live to love because most of us have lived with out love and we don't want to put anyone or even a child, through that pain. People need to realize that we don't bleed green and that we ARE human. We have the same feelings as you do, and we deserved to be treated with the same respect as anyone else. Now, those men/women who molest boys/girls, are they necessarly gay/lesbian? People think that because of what they do that we are just like them. Most of those people are married to a member of the opposit sex. So why are we to blame? We are just like you, alive and feeling every little remark smashing our lifestyles into the ground. How would you feel if you grew up into a homosexual world. If you were born heterosexual and people taunted you and harassed you and even tried to kill you because you weren't like them? Just how would you feel?
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