girl taken from hotel room..?... - Page 2

Raimann · May 08, 2007, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by equinn

Do you think it was there fault ?... or do u think its not?I mean, what do u think would happen if you left a child of 3 alone?
But whats your input

1. Parents Fault - Why?
the parents have to realise that a child of 3 years old, even without the threat of being abducted, can get hurt supervised. it can smash something, and get cuts. even before the abduction, saftey should have been on their mind.
2. Inevitability - Why?
lets say that SOMEHOW the parents child proofed the room, they would have thought that it was safe. only in our country do abductions happen daily and get talked about. in europe, in rare cases to children get kidnapped, so it wasnt much of a threat

KimiFemi · May 08, 2007, 11:22 PM

I think its the parents fault .. sure if the girl was actually kidnapped ( I thought the article said the perp would have come in through the window and out the front door but the police wouldn't confirm a break in through the window) it would also be the kidnappers fault but the parents take a big part of the blame no matter what happened because they left 3 kids ( one 3yr old and two 2 yrs old)alone in a hotel room ....
It all ends up with the parents not acting in the best interest of the children.
If it was a planned kidnapping then the parents just made it easier and without considering kidnappings so many things could have happened to those kids alone in that room ... with the tub and outlets and access to the door and so many other things ...

!The White Wolf · May 09, 2007, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KimiFemi

I think its the parents fault .. sure if the girl was actually kidnapped ( I thought the article said the perp would have come in through the window and out the front door but the police wouldn't confirm a break in through the window) it would also be the kidnappers fault but the parents take a big part of the blame no matter what happened because they left 3 kids ( one 3yr old and two 2 yrs old)alone in a hotel room ....
It all ends up with the parents not acting in the best interest of the children.
If it was a planned kidnapping then the parents just made it easier and without considering kidnappings so many things could have happened to those kids alone in that room ... with the tub and outlets and access to the door and so many other things ...

I'm pretty sure they WERE thinking about the child when they were out. Not her best interests, but they were thinking of her. They'd check in every now and then, (as stated in the article). They probably didn't think someone would actually dare come into a stranger's hotel room and KIDNAP their child.

It was a huge mistake on their part, and I'm sure they feel horrible.
I'm just confused as to why the BOTH of them left simultaneously.

KimiFemi · May 09, 2007, 09:23 PM

my bad I worded that wrong
I didnt mean to blame them because they didnt consider a kidnapping
because not many would think of that first
or that they didnt think of the kids at all
it would be hard to do that
just meant that leaving the kids in the room alone
would have the potential to cause many diff types of accidents/incident besides kidnappings
but they werent acting as parents should
when you have a child (just one let alone 3)
you have to keep in your mind all the time that that child is your responsibility
and you as the parent(s) are the only one(s) looking out for them and protecting them .. whether its from other people or their own curiousity...
and so maybe they couldnt have foreseen the kidnapping but as a parent they should never have left the kids alone in the first place ...
Wolf I think that they were just trying to have a romantic dinner alone (didnt see any excusses though) with out the kids interrupting or maybe they just thought the kids wouldnt want to sit still long enough to finish a dinner what ever the reason they should have had an adult with the kids at all times

!The White Wolf · May 09, 2007, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by KimiFemi

Wolf I think that they were just trying to have a romantic dinner alone (didnt see any excusses though) with out the kids interrupting or maybe they just thought the kids wouldnt want to sit still long enough to finish a dinner what ever the reason they should have had an adult with the kids at all times

My thoughts exactly. I figured they were just trying to spend sometime alone. But with a child so small.. would it matter? They could have waited until she fell asleep and then maybe brought her along with them so she wouldn't cause any disruptions. Or they could have gotten it ordered to them by means of Room Service. It was a frivolous move they made, and now they have to pay for it. There is such a thing as learning from your mistakes, a saying I live by, but with this case.. there is just no excuse.

Their incident was a terrible misfortune, and I can only hope the child comes up some way or another. It's better to know that the child is [God forbid] dead, than to wonder your entire life if she's all right.

KimiFemi · May 09, 2007, 09:47 PM

yeah it is a horrible mistake on their parts ... acording to the news they think its possible the girl could be still alive ... because there have been a bunch of sexual predator kidnappings lately but the kids they ussed as examples are all over 10 ... 3 is a bit of a stretch ... does anyone know if there is any NEW info on this abduction???

*equinn* · May 10, 2007, 12:33 AM

@white wolf::...

hey they lift kids off streets ect why would a sranger not go to the holtel room if they new a kid was in it and take her/him hmm....
he could have said anything to that kid to make her come with him/her

Shodokan · May 10, 2007, 01:12 AM

If the kid ever turns up I hope they take custody away from the parents.

fled79 · May 10, 2007, 07:54 AM

I don't get how some people in here can not blame the parents. The children are your responsibility, you want alone time? You are just gonna have to wait then! So what if these people were planning to kidnap the child, it would have happened anyway? What kind of thinking is that? You know that you will die one day anyways, so you gonna off yourself today because you know that fact? Children that old should not be left unsupervised for any amount of time unless they are at home in their rooms. Would a good parent go to the store while their 2-3 year old was in the bathtub, or with an unlocked house and no supervision? No. So maybe these parents didn't want the hassle of dealing with small children while dining, or going to the store, guess what buddy, you had the kids and took on the responsibility, deal with it! Just another example of poor descision making and bad parenting to me.

*equinn* · May 10, 2007, 07:57 AM

yes fled you have the point im trying to gave out

no one i mean no one would do that

so what when your on holidays leave a child at 3 on her own

!The White Wolf · May 10, 2007, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by equinn

@white wolf::...

hey they lift kids off streets ect why would a sranger not go to the holtel room if they new a kid was in it and take her/him hmm....
he could have said anything to that kid to make her come with him/her

I understand that. What I said was they most likely didn't think it would happen to them. Especially since they were in a hotel, where there is security and people all around. So a false sense of security took part in them making the decision to leave the child and go eat.

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KimiFemi Diamond in the Rough Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: So many places... I cant remember ... Posts: 476 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Credits: 4,564	Re: girl taken from hotel room..?... I think its the parents fault .. sure if the girl was actually kidnapped ( I thought the article said the perp would have come in through the window and out the front door but the police wouldn't confirm a break in through the window) it would also be the kidnappers fault but the parents take a big part of the blame no matter what happened because they left 3 kids ( one 3yr old and two 2 yrs old)alone in a hotel room .... It all ends up with the parents not acting in the best interest of the children. If it was a planned kidnapping then the parents just made it easier and without considering kidnappings so many things could have happened to those kids alone in that room ... with the tub and outlets and access to the door and so many other things ... __________________ Secret Love "Love everyone unless they dont love you back" http://z13.invisionfree.com/Deaths_d...ex.php?act=idx Last edited by KimiFemi; May 09, 2007 at 12:31 PM.
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KimiFemi Diamond in the Rough Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: So many places... I cant remember ... Posts: 476 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Credits: 4,564	Re: girl taken from hotel room..?... my bad I worded that wrong I didnt mean to blame them because they didnt consider a kidnapping because not many would think of that first or that they didnt think of the kids at all it would be hard to do that just meant that leaving the kids in the room alone would have the potential to cause many diff types of accidents/incident besides kidnappings but they werent acting as parents should when you have a child (just one let alone 3) you have to keep in your mind all the time that that child is your responsibility and you as the parent(s) are the only one(s) looking out for them and protecting them .. whether its from other people or their own curiousity... and so maybe they couldnt have foreseen the kidnapping but as a parent they should never have left the kids alone in the first place ... Wolf I think that they were just trying to have a romantic dinner alone (didnt see any excusses though) with out the kids interrupting or maybe they just thought the kids wouldnt want to sit still long enough to finish a dinner what ever the reason they should have had an adult with the kids at all times __________________ Secret Love "Love everyone unless they dont love you back" http://z13.invisionfree.com/Deaths_d...ex.php?act=idx
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fled79 Diamond in the Rough Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: VA Posts: 164 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Credits: 253	Re: girl taken from hotel room..?... I don't get how some people in here can not blame the parents. The children are your responsibility, you want alone time? You are just gonna have to wait then! So what if these people were planning to kidnap the child, it would have happened anyway? What kind of thinking is that? You know that you will die one day anyways, so you gonna off yourself today because you know that fact? Children that old should not be left unsupervised for any amount of time unless they are at home in their rooms. Would a good parent go to the store while their 2-3 year old was in the bathtub, or with an unlocked house and no supervision? No. So maybe these parents didn't want the hassle of dealing with small children while dining, or going to the store, guess what buddy, you had the kids and took on the responsibility, deal with it! Just another example of poor descision making and bad parenting to me.
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